Al, let me explain this situation:

It is not the consumer QiGi i6 you can get in stores next month. It is
a special order DEV version of the same hardware. With a large order
we can change things. For example, I am requesting a HVGA LCD right
now and it is of course within their capability to do it. The
look&feel may also be slightly different. And we can ask for more
memory, for example.

Again, I am only interested in brining more tools for dev/test, not
directly for consumers. If someone wants to do that, I can help but I
am not interested in doing it myself.


On Feb 17, 11:47 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Quote from the Engadget page on the QiGi i6
> (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/hands-on-with-techfaiths-qigi-i6-i...
>
> "Anyhow, let's just be straight about this: odds are you don't really
> want this phone, even if you think you do. The physical design feels one
> or two iterations behind, but the real problem stems from the fact that
> you're rocking QVGA resolution here; yes, granted, Android runs -- but
> in its default layout, it's clearly designed for a few more pixels both
> horizontally and vertically."
>
> I don't think there's going to be a lot of interest as is, but I wish
> you all the best with your efforts.
>
> Al.
>
> Vincent Wu wrote:
> > No, it is a dev version of the TechFaith QiGi i6. Just like ADP1, it
> > has unlocked and the developer can do anything with it.
>
> > I am requesting a bigger screen at this time. They can do
> > customizations like that, with a price. So if you can let me know what
> > feature/price is most desirable in a dev phone, I will negotiate and
> > get the deal done.
>
> > On Feb 17, 10:45 am, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Is that the HTC Magic you are talking about?
>
> >> take care,
> >> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> >>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in-Android
> >> Consulting.
>
> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Imaging Luminary, LLC <
>
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Convincing for what?
>
> >>> I am not asking you to pay $$$. I just want to see if I can get enough
> >>> interests for a large order of 250+ sets. If there is any further
> >>> risk, it is me, not you, who will handle the risk. The phone must be
> >>> good for developers/testers otherwise I won't be interested in it.
>
> >>> Look. I am not a business man. This is truly an Android developer to
> >>> Android developer talk. I won't expect any consumer/non-programmer get
> >>> involved. You may have to buy your snake oil somewhere else.
>
> >>> On Feb 17, 10:02 am, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <mi...@mm-
> >>> agency.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Hmm, not a very convincing argument...do you have any snake oil for sale?
>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Vincent Wu [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:00 AM
> >>>> To: Android Discuss
> >>>> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: ******New Model Android Phone for
>
> >>> sale******
>
> >>>> Of course I will have to show you the phone, have a few people test
> >>>> it, and write at least one full sized review. The company will provide
> >>>> english version of manual in a few days with other marketing materials
> >>>> including full size images. I want to first see if there are other
> >>>> programmers like me excited about a new Android device; if not I will
> >>>> never want to spend time on it any more.
>
> >>>> On Feb 17, 9:52 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Maybe you could post a link to the manual, some pictures, etc., or are
> >>>>> you expecting people to stump up cash without knowing what they're
> >>>>> getting beyond it being an Android 'phone?
>
> >>>>> Al.
>
> >>>>> Vincent Wu wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Yes I know that one it is called OPhone from Lenovo; it has no
> >>>>>> connection with the one I am referring to.
>
> >>>>>> Any phone order through me will have English manuals and the OS Image
> >>>>>> will be English too.
>
> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 9:37 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Does this mean a phone sold in china will not have a working
>
> >>> Android
>
> >>>>>>>> Market app when it is sent to US? If it is true my little operation
> >>>>>>>> will fail for sure.
>
> >>>>>>>> What happens if you travel to the States?
>
> >>>>>>> China Mobile(carrier) will be selling the handsets & I assume with
>
> >>>> Android
>
> >>>>>>> Market since China Mobile is/will be their partner there. Maybe more
>
> >>>> carrier
>
> >>>>>>> partners in China, but none that I know.
> >>>>>>> You travel to the USA with that phone & if your contract allows
>
> >>> roaming
>
> >>>> and
>
> >>>>>>> Market allows you to access it whilst roaming, yes.
>
> >>>>>>> George
>
> >>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 6:46 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Guys, it won't be possible. Alternative device manufacturers that
>
> >>>> don't
>
> >>>>>>>> have
>
> >>>>>>>>> relationships with (Carrier+Google) won't be able to complete the
>
> >>>> Android
>
> >>>>>>>>> Market payment fulfillment.
> >>>>>>>>> Android is open enough and open for alternative device
>
> >>> manufacturers
>
> >>>> to
>
> >>>>>>>> use.
>
> >>>>>>>>> They will need an App Manager(some branded) for their devices and
>
> >>>> content
>
> >>>>>>>>> other than Android Market(since AM will not be accessible to these
> >>>>>>>>> subscribers). Hence expect the growth pattern for alternative
>
> >>>>>>>> marketplaces
>
> >>>>>>>>> to surpass Android Market in global reach...  till the day when
>
> >>>> Google
>
> >>>>>>>>> Checkout is available globally and have convinced every person in
>
> >>> the
>
> >>>>>>>> world
>
> >>>>>>>>> to submit their personal details (who I am, how I pay, my habits,
>
> >>>> etc) to
>
> >>>>>>>>> Google.
>
> >>>>>>>>> For global reach you need local payment options and these are
>
> >>> called
>
> >>>>>>>>> alternative payments as each user is accustomed to in their local
>
> >>>> town or
>
> >>>>>>>>> country.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Combination of Google Checkout and carrier billing will work, but
>
> >>>> still
>
> >>>>>>>>> handicaped.  Not to mention that its a lot more difficult for a
>
> >>> giant
>
> >>>> to
>
> >>>>>>>>> enter local countries and offer payment services without a battle
>
> >>>> with
>
> >>>>>>>> local
>
> >>>>>>>>> authorities and companies... Though this is another
>
> >>>> corporate/politics
>
> >>>>>>>>> issue.
>
> >>>>>>>>> George
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]
>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> George,
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Going forward I can see Google only allowing Market on 'phones in
> >>>>>>>>>> regions where they have sorted out the payment method because I
>
> >>>> can't
>
> >>>>>>>>>> see them offering and maintaining two version of Market (one
>
> >>>> allowing
>
> >>>>>>>>>> pay-for apps and another not).
>
> >>>>>>>>>> As for how many territories they offer payment in, well, who
>
> >>> knows.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Al.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> george_c wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> A question to all developers:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you think such devices that will start appearing more and
>
> >>> more
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> across the globe will have the Android Market client app and
>
> >>> will
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> allow its users to have access to the Android Market?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> George
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Muthu Ramadoss
> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     Oh, right. The shipping and customs will probably cost more
>
> >>>> than
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     the phone for India!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     take care,
> >>>>>>>>>>>     Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914
> >>>>>>>>>>>    http://androidrocks.in-AndroidConsulting.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Cassius <
>
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         Remember shipping and customs when you buy from China.
> >>>>>>>>>>>         For example shipping and customs to ship an ADP1 from
>
> >>> USA
>
> >>>> to
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         Italy is over 90$!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>             On Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM, "Muthu Ramadoss"
> >>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>             If you can post the pictures, then probably people
>
> ...
>
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