You need to convince people it's worth saying yes. It's impossible to say you really will buy something unless you know what it is in a bit more detail. If you're offering a phone similar to the HTC Magic there maybe interest, if it's similar to the Kogan Agora then given Kogan dropped that device you're unlikely to see any interest.
There is also the issue of support. If it's a custom run of 250 devices and they're all taken what happens if someone gets one thats DOA?, What happens if the device developers a fault after a month or two? will replacements be available? will firmware upgrades be possible if the device uses custom hardware which is not supported by the main GIT repository version of Android? At the moment you've got to convince people that what you're offering is more attractive than the ADP1, G1, the FreeRunner running Koolus distribution, or the HTC Magic from Vodafone, and from the responses you're getting I'd say you're not succeding. Al. Imaging Luminary, LLC wrote: > Convincing for what? > > I am not asking you to pay $$$. I just want to see if I can get enough > interests for a large order of 250+ sets. If there is any further > risk, it is me, not you, who will handle the risk. The phone must be > good for developers/testers otherwise I won't be interested in it. > > Look. I am not a business man. This is truly an Android developer to > Android developer talk. I won't expect any consumer/non-programmer get > involved. You may have to buy your snake oil somewhere else. > > > On Feb 17, 10:02 am, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <mi...@mm- > agency.com> wrote: > >> Hmm, not a very convincing argument...do you have any snake oil for sale? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vincent Wu [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:00 AM >> To: Android Discuss >> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: ******New Model Android Phone for sale****** >> >> Of course I will have to show you the phone, have a few people test >> it, and write at least one full sized review. The company will provide >> english version of manual in a few days with other marketing materials >> including full size images. I want to first see if there are other >> programmers like me excited about a new Android device; if not I will >> never want to spend time on it any more. >> >> On Feb 17, 9:52 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Maybe you could post a link to the manual, some pictures, etc., or are >>> you expecting people to stump up cash without knowing what they're >>> getting beyond it being an Android 'phone? >>> >>> Al. >>> >>> Vincent Wu wrote: >>> >>>> Yes I know that one it is called OPhone from Lenovo; it has no >>>> connection with the one I am referring to. >>>> >>>> Any phone order through me will have English manuals and the OS Image >>>> will be English too. >>>> >>>> On Feb 17, 9:37 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Does this mean a phone sold in china will not have a working Android >>>>>> Market app when it is sent to US? If it is true my little operation >>>>>> will fail for sure. >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if you travel to the States? >>>>>> >>>>> China Mobile(carrier) will be selling the handsets & I assume with >>>>> >> Android >> >>>>> Market since China Mobile is/will be their partner there. Maybe more >>>>> >> carrier >> >>>>> partners in China, but none that I know. >>>>> You travel to the USA with that phone & if your contract allows roaming >>>>> >> and >> >>>>> Market allows you to access it whilst roaming, yes. >>>>> >>>>> George >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 6:46 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, it won't be possible. Alternative device manufacturers that >>>>>>> >> don't >> >> >>>>>> have >>>>>> >>>>>>> relationships with (Carrier+Google) won't be able to complete the >>>>>>> >> Android >> >>>>>>> Market payment fulfillment. >>>>>>> Android is open enough and open for alternative device manufacturers >>>>>>> >> to >> >> >>>>>> use. >>>>>> >>>>>>> They will need an App Manager(some branded) for their devices and >>>>>>> >> content >> >>>>>>> other than Android Market(since AM will not be accessible to these >>>>>>> subscribers). Hence expect the growth pattern for alternative >>>>>>> >>>>>> marketplaces >>>>>> >>>>>>> to surpass Android Market in global reach... till the day when >>>>>>> >> Google >> >>>>>>> Checkout is available globally and have convinced every person in the >>>>>>> >>>>>> world >>>>>> >>>>>>> to submit their personal details (who I am, how I pay, my habits, >>>>>>> >> etc) to >> >>>>>>> Google. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For global reach you need local payment options and these are called >>>>>>> alternative payments as each user is accustomed to in their local >>>>>>> >> town or >> >>>>>>> country. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Combination of Google Checkout and carrier billing will work, but >>>>>>> >> still >> >>>>>>> handicaped. Not to mention that its a lot more difficult for a giant >>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>> enter local countries and offer payment services without a battle >>>>>>> >> with >> >> >>>>>> local >>>>>> >>>>>>> authorities and companies... Though this is another >>>>>>> >> corporate/politics >> >>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> George, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Going forward I can see Google only allowing Market on 'phones in >>>>>>>> regions where they have sorted out the payment method because I >>>>>>>> >> can't >> >>>>>>>> see them offering and maintaining two version of Market (one >>>>>>>> >> allowing >> >>>>>>>> pay-for apps and another not). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for how many territories they offer payment in, well, who knows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Al. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> george_c wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A question to all developers: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you think such devices that will start appearing more and more >>>>>>>>> across the globe will have the Android Market client app and will >>>>>>>>> allow its users to have access to the Android Market? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Muthu Ramadoss >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh, right. The shipping and customs will probably cost more >>>>>>>>> >> than >> >>>>>>>>> the phone for India! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> take care, >>>>>>>>> Muthu Ramadoss. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 >>>>>>>>> http://androidrocks.in-AndroidConsulting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Cassius < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Remember shipping and customs when you buy from China. >>>>>>>>> For example shipping and customs to ship an ADP1 from USA >>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>>>> Italy is over 90$! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM, "Muthu Ramadoss" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you can post the pictures, then probably people >>>>>>>>> >> might >> >>>>>>>>> be interested in them. The more details, the better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> take care, Muthu Ramadoss. >>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 >>>>>>>>> http://androidrocks.in... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Wu >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Well >>>>>>>>> this is a... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ====== >>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >>>>>>>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >>>>>>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >>>>>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >>>>>>>> subsidiaries. >>>>>>>> >>> -- >>> ====== >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >>> company number 6741909. 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