On 1 November 2011 11:43, Aleksey Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 11:15:01AM +0000, Jimmy O'Regan wrote:
>> On 1 November 2011 10:34, Aleksey Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I will try to setup Apertium (and maybe with openmatrex) as en-es/es-en
>> > translation backend for Sugar Labs IRC channels to start using it on
>> > regular basis.
>> >
>> > Also, if I got it right, existing Web applicateion,
>> > http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Tradubi, is not FOSS
>>
>> Nobody said that. It's Affero GPL, which places no more restrictions
>> on modification and redistribution than the GPL3, and is considered
>> 'free' by the FSF, and 'open source' by the OSI.
>>
>> My problem with it is that it places restrictions on *use* that are
>> both obnoxious and (IMO) unachievable under copyright law (i.e., it is
>> effectively an EULA). So I don't use anything that uses that licence
>> (which, in practice, is not that big a deal, because very little
>> software I would otherwise consider worth using is affected) - I'm not
>> saying *you* shouldn't use it. That's up to you, and I feel no need to
>> convert anyone to my 'religion'.
>
> I meant that I didn't find "Sources" link on its site, maybe I tried not
> enough.
>

There's a project on sourceforge, I think.

>> > and doesn't directly
>> > contribute to Apertium database.
>>
>> That part is correct.
>
> Anyway having an app that works smooth with Apertium makes more sense.
> It might be the Tradubi/modified-Tradubi/something-new..
>

Yes.

>> > Maybe it makes sense to start thinking
>> > about having a la Pootle for contributing directly to Apertium or so,
>> > i.e., tools do matter to have sustainable community contribution.
>> > I've CCed to Sugar Labs i18n coordinator, Chris Leonard, maybe he has some
>> > ideas.
>> >
>>
>> It's not like we haven't thought about it before :) - it just turns
>> out to be surprisingly difficult. Perhaps the problem is in trying to
>> do _everything_, instead of just the important parts.
>
> To be honest, my personal intention to start using pure FOSS solution
> (instead of yet another free-as-a-beer translation API) is exactly about
> having an infrustructure to welcome people to make contribution (that's
> exaclty the nature of Sugar process), even if this new solution is less
> feature reach than previous one.

Great! :)

-- 
<Sefam> Are any of the mentors around?
<jimregan> yes, they're the ones trolling you

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