On this subject, there is an item from ENS:
ENVIRONMENT NEWS SERVICE (ENS) http://ens-news.com
"We Cover the Earth For You"
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UN ENVIRONMENT CHIEF: FIGHT ROOT CAUSES OF TERRORISM
ALMATY, Kazakhstan, September 21, 2001 (ENS) - It is the forces of poverty,
environmental degradation and hatred that give birth to the intolerance
that can lead to fundamentalism and terrorist acts, Klaus Toepfer said today.
For full text and graphics visit:
http://ens-news.com/ens/sep2001/2001L-09-21-02.html
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I haven't browsed it yet, haven't been online since reading this newsletter.
If http://ens-news.com doesn't work right, try http://ens-news.com/index.html
Other thoughts:
from Ricsi:
the only thing were america is more liberal than europe is when weapons
(guns ...) are concerned.
And most europeans absolutely are behind these restrictions.
Problem with this, especially in the USA, is that when they outlaw guns, only
outlaws will have guns. Criminals in New York City didn't seem to have much
trouble obtaining illicit weapons.
Ricsi:
> And the 'gathering' was allways used as a justification for NSA projects
> like echelon.
Sam Heywood:
> I don't know in what context you are using the term "echelon". It has
> a variety of meanings.
Remember the thread about Echelon, the NSA project for snooping private email,
on the Arachne list some time ago?
There was also a debate on the merits of gun control.
