Why are we still dictating how other regions should operate their RIRs? 

We can already use our numbers. 

Best,

Martin

 



> On May 28, 2015, at 09:46, Jason Schiller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Owen,
> 
> How does that differ from the policy text I sent?
> 
> Can you send an idea of policy text?
> 
> I thought the text I sent said that an ARIN org can transfer IPs out to 
> another wholely owned subsidiary in another RIR region if they have been the 
> recipient of transfer in less that 12 months IF the recipient org will be 
> required (read by recipient's RIR policy) to hold the transfered resource for 
> the balance of the 12 months.
> 
> ___Jason
> 
>> On May 28, 2015 8:31 AM, "Owen DeLong" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Or simply not permit it under ARIN policy until such exists.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> > On May 28, 2015, at 1:49 PM, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On May 27, 2015, at 11:39 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My suggestion is that I don't mind (virtually) unrestricted moves of 
>> >> addresses to different regions staying with the same organization. 
>> >> However, if we are to allow that, I want us to find a way that you can't 
>> >> merely use that as a way to move addresses out of flip protection to then 
>> >> flip them to another organization via an RIR with a less restrictive 
>> >> transfer policy.
>> >>
>> >> So... If you transfer addresses to another region, keeping them in the 
>> >> same organization, no penalty. However, you are not allowed to 
>> >> subsequently transfer them (or other addresses in that region) to an 
>> >> external party for at least 12 months.
>> >
>> > That second portion that you seek would affect the ongoing operation of
>> > another RIR, i.e. it requires them having some explicit policy to that 
>> > effect.
>> >
>> > To obtain the result you seek, we either need globally coordinated transfer
>> > policy in this area, or you need to make the inter-RIR transfer policy 
>> > explicit
>> > in this regard in determination of compatibility.
>> >
>> > /John
>> >
>> > John Curran
>> > President and CEO
>> > ARIN
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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