> On May 28, 2015, at 8:26 AM, John Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 28 May 2015, John Curran wrote:
> 
>> On May 27, 2015, at 11:39 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My suggestion is that I don't mind (virtually) unrestricted moves of 
>>> addresses to different regions staying with the same organization. However, 
>>> if we are to allow that, I want us to find a way that you can't merely use 
>>> that as a way to move addresses o
>> ut of flip protection to then flip them to another organization via an RIR 
>> with a less restrictive transfer policy.
>>> 
>>> So... If you transfer addresses to another region, keeping them in the same 
>>> organization, no penalty. However, you are not allowed to subsequently 
>>> transfer them (or other addresses in that region) to an external party for 
>>> at least 12 months.
>> 
>> That second portion that you seek would affect the ongoing operation of 
>> another RIR, i.e. it requires them having some explicit policy to that 
>> effect.  
>> 
>> To obtain the result you seek, we either need globally coordinated transfer 
>> policy in this area, or you need to make the inter-RIR transfer policy 
>> explicit 
>> in this regard in determination of compatibility.
> 
> If the penalty were that if you transfered out of your organization those
> addresses in less than 12 months, you could not receive new addresses
> (either from free pool or as the result of a directed transfer) UNDER ARIN
> until the 12 months were up, there would be no requirement of any change
> to any other RIR's rules nor any requirement of coordination with other
> RIRs.

I also don’t think it would be sufficient penalty. The company in question 
would merely
obtain their addresses via transfer into another RIR.

Owen


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