> On May 28, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Jason Schiller <[email protected]> wrote: > > Owen, > > How does that differ from the policy text I sent? > > Can you send an idea of policy text? > > I thought the text I sent said that an ARIN org can transfer IPs out to > another wholely owned subsidiary in another RIR region if they have been the > recipient of transfer in less that 12 months IF the recipient org will be > required (read by recipient's RIR policy) to hold the transfered resource for > the balance of the 12 months. > > Your proposal allows substitution.
ARIN->Other RIR space A Space B Other RIR-> Money/etc. I want to see substitution transfers prohibited. Owen > ___Jason > > On May 28, 2015 8:31 AM, "Owen DeLong" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Or simply not permit it under ARIN policy until such exists. > > Owen > > > On May 28, 2015, at 1:49 PM, John Curran <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On May 27, 2015, at 11:39 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> My suggestion is that I don't mind (virtually) unrestricted moves of > >> addresses to different regions staying with the same organization. > >> However, if we are to allow that, I want us to find a way that you can't > >> merely use that as a way to move addresses out of flip protection to then > >> flip them to another organization via an RIR with a less restrictive > >> transfer policy. > >> > >> So... If you transfer addresses to another region, keeping them in the > >> same organization, no penalty. However, you are not allowed to > >> subsequently transfer them (or other addresses in that region) to an > >> external party for at least 12 months. > > > > That second portion that you seek would affect the ongoing operation of > > another RIR, i.e. it requires them having some explicit policy to that > > effect. > > > > To obtain the result you seek, we either need globally coordinated transfer > > policy in this area, or you need to make the inter-RIR transfer policy > > explicit > > in this regard in determination of compatibility. > > > > /John > > > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > ARIN > > > > > > > > >
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