Everyone is free to make their own interpretations and roll the dice if they want but the CRTC decisions are clear.
"to and/or from" the PSTN. Both public notice 2004-2 "Regulatory framework for voice communication services using Internet Protocol", and Telcom Decision 2005-21 "Emergency service obligations for local VoIP service providers" say the same thing. Regards, - John Lange - President Canadian Association of VOIP Providers www.cavp.ca (204) 992 9500 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:14 -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote: > I don't know why it says "to and/or from"; inbound only providers > wouldn't be subject to that. > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, John Lange wrote: > > > Just to ensure there is no confusion as to who is supposed to provide > > 911 services; the CRTC mandates that: > > > > "voice communication services ... that utilize telephone numbers based > > on the North American Numbering Plan and provide universal access to > > and/or from the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) ..." > > > > are required to provide 911 service. > > > > I can hardly think of a type of VOIP service which doesn't fall under > > that definition. > > > > About the only type of service which wouldn't be required to provide 911 > > service would be a wholesale termination type of service where the > > customers of the service are other VOIP providers who are doing their > > own 911. > > > > If there are VOIP providers who are not providing access to 911 then > > they are not only putting their customers at risk but are also likely to > > be sued if an incident occurs. > > > > Furthermore, the last thing the VOIP industry needs is another round of > > bad press regarding lack of access to 911 using VOIP. > > > > I can't stress enough that if you are aware of companies operating > > illegally they should be reported to the CRTC. It does nobody any > > favours to have fly-by-night VOIP operations putting the public and the > > industry at risk. > > > > Regards, > > - > > John Lange - President > > Canadian Association of VOIP Providers > > www.cavp.ca > > (204) 992 9500 > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:58 -0400, Antony Niro wrote: > >> Not all VoIP providers provide service as defined in John's reference, > >> therefore may not be required to provide E911 service. > >> > >> So, one must define "provider" first. > >> > >> I'm aware of several VoIP "providers" that don't provide E911 service. > >> > >> For these cases there are companies that provide E911 service for callers > >> routed to them. > >> > >> -Antony. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:30 PM > >> To: Dave Lahn > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] 911 and VoIP > >> > >> ?Yes there is a requirement to provide 911 service for VOIP and not just > >> any 911 service will do. You must ensure that the calls to 911 are > >> routed correctly. > >> > >> Our association has a web page which contains a listing of important > >> CRTC VOIP regulations: > >> > >> http://www.cavp.ca/content/view/108/45/ > >> > >> If you are aware of any providers who are not providing 911 service > >> please report them to our association, or directly the the CRTC if you > >> prefer. > >> > >> Regards, > >> -- > >> John Lange - President > >> Canadian Association of VOIP Providers > >> www.cavp.ca > >> (204) 992 9500 > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 15:21 -0400, Dave Lahn wrote: > >>> Hi Everyone, > >>> > >>> Does anyone know if there is any legislation in Canada that requires > >>> VoIP providers to have 911 dialing available to their clients? I know > >>> that some termination providers do not provide any sort of 911 or e911 > >>> service. > >>> > >>> Is it enough to just explicitly state that you do not provide 911 > >>> service whatsoever? > >>> > >>> All the Best, > >>> Dave Lahn > >>> EdgeLink Consulting > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
