opaqueice;176828 Wrote: > This post sums up what really lies behind this debate. It's not about > blind testing at all - it's about the fact that a large fraction of > audiophiles are obsessed with a set of things that don't make a bit of > difference to audio reproduction, and feel compelled to defend them. > > . . . have you ever measured the frequency response of a speaker in a > real room? It's abysmal. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why, > even from down the hall, you can distinguish music or voices playing > through speakers from the real thing? It's not because you need to > cryo treat your digital cables. Have you considered the difference > between two speakers, plus a subwoofer, or using 3 speakers, 4, 5, > more? Those differences are huge. Room treatment, speaker placement, > active crossovers? Digital signal processing, room correction, > equalization? Everthing there is far, far more important than ebony > hockey pucks. >
tomjtx;176839 Wrote: > But you are attempting to silence people who disagree with you. > You tried to do that before. In the end you left the forum. > I think these two quotes from opaquesce and tomjtx summarizes the problem I've been having with the debate over in the thread on whether on isolation feet for the SB3. Our friend Opaquesce is convinced that speakers and room effects are so important that nothing else matters. That's fine but he continually jumps in to try to convince others of this fact and doesn't allow them to have their discussion. Tomjtx complains that we're trying to silence people who disagree but it's really this tendency of our "objectivist" friends to stop discussions on subjectivist topics that we're trying to address. Using the isolation feet thread as an example, I did a simple measurement which should satisfy the scientists in the crowd. I looked at the first page of the thread (the first 10 posts) and I counted how many posts were on topic and how many were off topic. Being generous, I counted 5 posts that addressed the topic of the use of isolation feet for the SB3. The other 5 ridiculed the idea of tweaks and effectively shut down any serious discussion on the topic of isolation feet. Here are a couple of examples: jonheal;176230 Wrote: > I suspend mine over a high-pressure cushion of air. Of course I have to > turn the volume way up to drown out the roar of the blower. opaqueice;176231 Wrote: > I've glued a magnet to mine so I can levitate it over a superconductor. > It's really annoying pouring liquid nitrogen in there all the time to > keep the superconductor cool, but hey, anything for good sound... My view is that these types of comments only serve to shut down discussion and are really bad form. The reason I started this thread about a DBT-free zone is to see if we could find some sort of compromise so that people can have real discussions about various things we find to improve the sound of the SB3 or other components in our system without being subjected to this type of disparagement. I welcome serious discussion on this point. Thanks, ---Gary -- GaryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GaryB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32352 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
