Indeed, it was about the best top-end-player (the definition of which seems to be open to very wide interpretation) but it's all veered off into la-la-land.
The rational members of the community, and indeed outside the community, don't even profess to "hear" differences when faced with different equipment, because they're aware of the bigger picture and have bothered to try to understand and remain objective : if they actually don't hear a difference then they say so ! Some people are even prepared to admit they don't hear a difference when running controlled tests - how crazy is that ?! As there's then data to show that there really is a difference, they investigate why they themselves can't hear it. Objectivity again.... It's also well understood that there are many external effects that have a far greater influence on sound than your new shiny bit of kit - however much you've invested in it. Just because of a price tag, a slick website, a talented company spokesman, a very cool looking new type of circuit-board, superb industrial design etc - none of that means that the product actually is better. Or even different.... : look at the scandal of the repackaged Oppo's a couple of years ago.... If it's not "real" then it's not true - whatever you might think. To go around the circle again, it's been proven - supported by data and appropriate testing - and the methodology & results have been checked & agreed by other independent scientists (this is the peer-reviewing process) that people cannot hear the levels of jitter that audiophiles talk about. Proven. If you really profess to be able to hear these things, then contact the people who've published the papers & challenge them. Put up or shut up. The "book / peer-reviewed paper" phrase that's becoming more frequently used ultimately refers to physics. Physics is physics, unless you can prove otherwise - and by the way if you can prove otherwise you'd become very famous, rich, and win a nobel prize too probably ! The operation of the computer or phone that you visit this site from is also governed by physics & completely / totally / utterly understood - whatever your opinion might be.... A lot of Audiophiles, perhaps the majority, perhaps the minority, spout self-serving (and uninformed) opinion. If a signal is not corrupted or altered in any way when it travels down a cable - then it isn't corrupted or altered. As simple as that. Electricity, signal behaviour, electronics - they're all very very well understood by people that have done the work, over many many years. For people who don't understand it, it's magic. There's a lot of money to be made from people that believe in magic. But, by the way, magic's not real either....sorry.... Some of us however think that magicians are actually immoral - and we don't like people to be taken advantage of. Maybe we should mind our own business & let the world go to hell ? When people come on to fora & state unequivocally that something is better or worse or whatever, they have to provide evidence, otherwise it's totally anecdotal opinion. The opinion of 1000 people is still opinion. There are people who are easily swayed by the majority. Is it right to stand by & let all the lemmings leap over the cliff ? Hmmm, on reflection, perhaps there's something to be said for "collateral damage" after all ?! Never stop questioning. Question question question. When you're pretty sure you're on the right track, question your methodology - just to be sure you've not asked the wrong questions....or misinterpreted what you've discovered. Or bury your head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss. Apparently. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rolski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96407 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
