What happens elsewhere for glider chutes? UK, USA, Europe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachute repacking
> Like I said just a thought..... > > But what you suggested is basically what there trying to nut out at the > moment with no real advance or resolution in sight as ( the way I read it) > inferred on the GFA website. > > Sure I'd like some one to who will repack my chute, who is qualified and > who > jumps themself everyweekend ..... but as from what I understand the > insurance company's bluntly say NO so where to now ? > > If someone is to a APF standard and holds a APF packers ticket, and is a > flying member of the GFA why cant we get them approved for use as a > repacker > in the GFA? > > > Ben > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A J W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachute repacking > > >>I prefer the idea of someone who packs 'chutes regularly, who has a >> predefined interest in it and who's chutes actually get opened >> regularly, packing my 'chute. If his credentials are to the AFP >> standard and remains current with regard to AFP insurance and the GFA >> can organise insurance cover, this may well be better, although a >> touch dearer, way to go. >> >> I'm not in the insurance industry, but experience in a field usually >> counts for something, and I'm sure this applies to parachute packing >> as well. >> >> A.J. >> >> On 5/25/07, Ben Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Ok I maybe thinking completely out of the box here.... but what if ?? >>> >>> Scenario . >>> >>> GFA calls for interested people to put up there hand who are qualified >>> to >>> re-pack chutes, or people who would like to be trained as a repacker, >>> who >>> are members of the gfa ( a nice figure would be 2 per state) >>> >>> GFA nominates one individual to oversee re-packing operations eg: >>> "Parachute >>> Operations Officer" >>> >>> GFA as a organisation applies to CASA for a CAO 30 Cert of Approval for >>> members only chute packing. >>> >>> Each nominated person in every state works under the direction of >>> "Parachute >>> Operations Officer" , who would then be covered under a extra insurance >>> policy for chute packing taken out by the GFA, >>> >>> If a average chute re pack costs lets say $ 60.00 which I think the >>> going >>> rate is , $25.00 would go to the packer for his/her time and $35.00 is >>> paid >>> to the GFA to cover costs of the insurance policy. >>> >>> Yes I know (before people put a chainsaw through my thoughts) it will be >>> a >>> paper war to get the organisation approved and to find people, but the >>> down >>> fall of a lot or organisations is the reliance of a external party to >>> help >>> them keep there compliance ...... i.e. relying on the APF to repack our >>> chutes until the legal issues crept up, which now have basically shafted >>> the >>> pilots of the GFA. >>> >>> Lets continue to work out the legal issues with the APF but get our own >>> approval, then the problem should not re-occur then every one and clubs >>> who >>> own chutes should have no reason to keep out of dates chutes, thus >>> negating >>> the debate about flying with time-ex chutes. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Ben "Hops off soap box" Jones >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> The Nationals Rules state that a parachute is mandatory equipment and >>> >> must be worn during flight. They do not say that the parachute must >>> >> have a current packing slip. >>> > >>> > They don't need to. The GFA operational regulations say that a >>> > parachute must be "current": >>> > >>> > Section 11 - Parachutes >>> > 11.1. A serviceable parachute shall be worn by each occupant of a >>> > sailplane >>> > taking part in a GFA recognised contest. >>> > 11.2. A parachute is not considered to be serviceable unless it has >>> > been >>> > inspected and repacked in accordance with the parachute manufacturer's >>> > maintenance requirements. >>> > This may be carried out by a person qualified under CAR 30 or by a >>> > parachuting >>> > organization approved by CASA. Unless a shorter time interval is >>> > specified, an >>> > inspection is valid for six months. >>> > >>> > >>> > So -- >>> > >>> > When the manufacturer says "8 months", the Operational Regulations >>> > override >>> > it and reduce it to 6. Carrying a _serviceable_ parachute in a GFA >>> > comp >>> > is >>> > mandatory regardless of whether or not the rules mention it, and the >>> > parachute is not _serviceable_ unless it meets the repacking >>> > requirement. >>> > >>> > The National Rules no doubt fail to mention this stuff because they >>> > don't >>> > need to mention it, because it's "the law of the land" whether they >>> > mention >>> > it or not (for pilots flying under the auspices of CASA's delegation >>> > to >>> > GFA, >>> > who are therefore governed by the opregs and the MOSP) >>> > >>> > >>> > - mark >>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > I tried an internal modem, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > but it hurt when I walked. 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