Hello Tom, hello all! I fully agree that the current situation (in regards to excercising our previlleges overseas) is totally untennable. Why is it necessary to obtain a BGA licence (or get an endorsement in the US) when we want to fly overseas? Why has the GFA still not come to an arrangement with CASA just like other sports aviation bodies? This year alone we had several cases where Australian glider pilots were denied flying a glider overseas. The now public case of Paul Mander is no exception. Keith Gately went to Germany to test fly an ASH 31 Mi but could not do so because he could not produce a valid licence. Several other pilots are faced with the same situation. Highly embarrassing indeed, given their qualifications! An internationally recognised licence was already demanded by some international pilots at a SAGA meeting more than 25 years ago. Because no progress has been made since, I decided to raise the matter publicly at the last two GFA AGMs. On both occasions I was assured by the GFA executive that the matter is in hand and high on their list of priorities. Following last year's meeting I had extensive correspondence with both the GFA president as well as other relevant office bearers. I pointed out that the Parachute Federation of Australia had come to an arangement with CASA allowing their members to excercise their previlleges overseas. I trust that the GFA has now consulted with the PFA and is using their approach as a blueprint for negotiations with CASA. I have had no feedback for quite some time now. However, I recently received unconfirmed reports that the matter is very close to a resolution. Therefore I expect the GFA president to make an announcement at the forthcoming AGM in Brisbane. Let's hold fire until then and keep our fingers crossed! Kind regards to all. Bernard Eckey From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2010 1:36 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] pilot license
The US one is what I used in Szeged. For pure gliders the BGA licence by mail works but for engines a UK NPPL is needed which requires 500km of cross-country in the UK in previous 12 months. Tom --- On Mon, 16/8/10, Catherine Conway <[email protected]> wrote: From: Catherine Conway <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] pilot license To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Received: Monday, 16 August, 2010, 3:22 PM Glad I got a US one in the early 90's. I've used it in Europe as well as the US Cath Sent from my iPhone On 16/08/2010, at 12:42 PM, "Christopher Mc Donnell" <[email protected]> wrote: > If you need an ICAO recognised glider licence you can take one of the cheap > flights to NZ, have a bit of a holiday and get one of their CAA ones while > there. > Just do your homework and break the back of the paperwork before you go. > This would seem to be the cheapest way for Australians. > Pity we are one of the few places you cannot get a recognised licence. Makes > you feel second rate :-( > > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "emilis prelgauskas" <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:59 AM > Subject: [Aus-soaring] pilot license > > > To Tom's enquiry about pilot licensing for use o/s > my understanding would be that GFA > in addition to formalising GPC for the future; > would also be able > as the 'organisation of record' > to certify that the original instructor > was trained, endorsed, certified and audited by GFA > and therefore did train to the syllabus. > If the organisation of record can't do this, > firstly what is the point of having the organisation > and secondly what are the prospects of the organisation > being accepted by CASA in its sport aviation hierarchy transition. > > Just asking..... > > > > On 15/08/2010, at 1:44 AM, tom claffey wrote: > >> While conducting an e-mail war with CASA re a licence/letter of >> qualification to replace SLMG on my ATPL [for the World Comps] the CASA >> man implied that although he was satisfied that the GPC syllabus satisfied >> the ICAO licence requirements he could not be certain that I was trained >> in accordance with the syllabus. As my old instructor has recently died >> and cannot certify it looks like I may never get one! [I guess 20 000hrs >> and an ATPL does not help] >> Tom > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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