No arguments on that point Mike: Sydney Gliding, who are a very small operation 
who also fly from Camden operate a motor glider, and have accumulated 
sufficient funds over the last few years to purchase a K21Mi, so they avoid the 
issues you mention, however some other questions about the K21Mi operation come 
to mind
- will the engine survive the rigours of multiple launches in a day?
- what is the servicing interval of the engine, and can it be done in Australia?
- will they be willing to send someone solo in an aircraft worth a quarter of a 
million dollars?
- what does the newly solo'ed pilot fly with no other gliders to progress to? 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 6:04 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] L-13 etc

At 04:29 PM 23/08/2010, you wrote:
>Not to mention waiting months for the parts from the Eastern 
>European factories...
>
>We have both a Dg1000 and a K21. We bought the DG1000 first. 
>Interestingly enough the K21 is the most popular, with good reason. 
>Which ab-initio pilot would be concerned with the wing section, or 
>that one was designed 25 years ago? To the untrained eye, they are 
>viewed as sleek and modern compared to the K13.
>
>
>-

The K21 will be fine if you are trying to do *flying* training in 
gliders. If you are about training and inspiring *soaring* pilots who 
can already fly because they were trained in something with an engine 
the ASK21 isn't so good. Uninspiring performance.  Not impressive.

There's nothing wrong with gliders for teaching people to fly IN THE AIR.

It is on the ground that they fail badly. The logistics and personnel 
required to generate another sortie is huge by comparison to 
power.  As one of the difficult things in flying is learning to land, 
which is only done by repetitive practice, using something that can 
generate 10 or so landings in an hour clock time  with only the 
student and instructor instead of a tow pilot, wingtip runners etc 
would seem to make sense. If the pilot then decides he'd rather fly 
ultralights etc, he probably wasn't going to stay flying gliders for Agree
long anyway.


Mike


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