I think you should re-think looping a twin astir, way back there was an AD revoking its aerobatic capabilities.I dont think it was ever reinstated. cheers JR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Texler, Michael" <[email protected]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types
> My 2.2c > > I spend a lot of my current flying time instructing from the back seat > of: ASK-21, Puchacz, Twin Astir I and II, DG-1000s. Have spent many > hours in the back seats of: Bocian 1E, Bergfalke IV, KRO-3 Puchatek, > Janus, and some time in IS-28 and L-13 Blaniks ! ...;-) > > Agreed, the higher performance types are nice to fly (dare I say, look > nice) when you know what you are doing and have had some experience > under you belt. But they are much less forgiving of bad handling, it is > very easy to get into high energy situations that would overload most > low hour/early solo pilots. Then there are more controls such as flaps > and undercarriage to worry about. The lower performance trainers tend to > be much more forgiving of mishandling. > > I don't think putting ab-initio into a high performance a/c is the best > idea. You want to send them solo in a type that is easy to handle. It > makes sense to send a pilot solo in a glider type that they have trained > in. Then you graduate the pilot up through higher performance types. > > I certainly agree with low hour pilots going along on cross country > flights as P2 with an experienced pilot in higher performance a/c. This > seems to be a way to get people interested (most low hour pilots who > have done this have enjoyed the experience). > > As Catherine said, GA is still using Cessna 152, 172 for basic training, > although Diamond air is muscling in on the market. You don't see ab > initio GA pilots training in high performance a/c. > > P.S. > My very brief summary of trainers (from handling point of view)... > > ASK21: Good trainer, docile handling, can be aerobatted (can do rolls > too), spinning needs spin kit. Good visibility. > Puchacz: Good trainer, not as docile in handling, spins like a top! can > be aerobatted for inverted flight > Twin Astir: Good trainer, docile, can loop, spinning requires nose > whiskers. Visibility from back seat not so good. > DG-1000s: Requires more skill to fly (can build up speed easily), more > involved weight and balance system required for safe flight, can spin > and loop in 20m mode, more advanced aeros in 18m mode. Good visibility. > Bocian 1E: Docile Handling, Loops, Spins like a top. Good visibility. > Bergfalke: Requires more precise flying technique, likes good landings, > doesn't spin that well. Good visibility. > Puchatek: Docile, Spins well, Loops, Great visibility. > Janus: Requires more skill (slippery, has flaps, U/C, all flying tail), > good visibility. > IS-28: Handles well. Needs to be provoked to spin. Good visibility. > L-13 Blanik: Requires more skill if you are going to use the flaps. > Handles well otherwise. Visibility not so good out of the back seat. > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
