AD616 allowed loops and wingovers again and restored the VNE. Whiskers are not necessary for spinning either. > I think you should re-think looping a twin astir, way back there was an AD > revoking its aerobatic capabilities.I dont think it was ever reinstated. > cheers > JR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Texler, Michael" <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:11 PM > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types > > >> My 2.2c >> >> I spend a lot of my current flying time instructing from the back seat >> of: ASK-21, Puchacz, Twin Astir I and II, DG-1000s. Have spent many >> hours in the back seats of: Bocian 1E, Bergfalke IV, KRO-3 Puchatek, >> Janus, and some time in IS-28 and L-13 Blaniks ! ...;-) >> >> Agreed, the higher performance types are nice to fly (dare I say, look >> nice) when you know what you are doing and have had some experience >> under you belt. But they are much less forgiving of bad handling, it is >> very easy to get into high energy situations that would overload most >> low hour/early solo pilots. Then there are more controls such as flaps >> and undercarriage to worry about. The lower performance trainers tend to >> be much more forgiving of mishandling. >> >> I don't think putting ab-initio into a high performance a/c is the best >> idea. You want to send them solo in a type that is easy to handle. It >> makes sense to send a pilot solo in a glider type that they have trained >> in. Then you graduate the pilot up through higher performance types. >> >> I certainly agree with low hour pilots going along on cross country >> flights as P2 with an experienced pilot in higher performance a/c. This >> seems to be a way to get people interested (most low hour pilots who >> have done this have enjoyed the experience). >> >> As Catherine said, GA is still using Cessna 152, 172 for basic training, >> although Diamond air is muscling in on the market. You don't see ab >> initio GA pilots training in high performance a/c. >> >> P.S. >> My very brief summary of trainers (from handling point of view)... >> >> ASK21: Good trainer, docile handling, can be aerobatted (can do rolls >> too), spinning needs spin kit. Good visibility. >> Puchacz: Good trainer, not as docile in handling, spins like a top! can >> be aerobatted for inverted flight >> Twin Astir: Good trainer, docile, can loop, spinning requires nose >> whiskers. Visibility from back seat not so good. >> DG-1000s: Requires more skill to fly (can build up speed easily), more >> involved weight and balance system required for safe flight, can spin >> and loop in 20m mode, more advanced aeros in 18m mode. Good visibility. >> Bocian 1E: Docile Handling, Loops, Spins like a top. Good visibility. >> Bergfalke: Requires more precise flying technique, likes good landings, >> doesn't spin that well. Good visibility. >> Puchatek: Docile, Spins well, Loops, Great visibility. >> Janus: Requires more skill (slippery, has flaps, U/C, all flying tail), >> good visibility. >> IS-28: Handles well. Needs to be provoked to spin. Good visibility. >> L-13 Blanik: Requires more skill if you are going to use the flaps. >> Handles well otherwise. Visibility not so good out of the back seat. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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