Thanks for your input about this record.  I am really glad it is not the record 
for the John M. Machado Deniz for which I am searching.  This one seems to be 
more complicated than I can figure out.  
 
In any case, I will continue to try to find out where John was born and 
hopefully will have the same good results I am having with his wife who I have 
found WAS born in Rosais, Sao Jorge.  I do not have any information at this 
time indicating that John was also from Rosais, or even Sao Jorge.  Only have 
census records for his children which state their father was born in the 
Azores.  
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry [email protected]

--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Margaret Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:40 PM


I Cheri and Celeste,



The translation reads somewhat differently, and if I may, "filho d'outro" 
literally means "son of another" which indicates Jorge Machado Dias was of 
"Unkown/incognito" or "known" but not declared father or simply son of single 
Mother.


"Manoel son of Jorge Machado Dias, "son of another and of Maria Florinda da 
Silveira", already deceased and, of his wife Maria do Espirito Santo daughter 
of Manoel Silveira Pereira and of Barbara Silveira, already deceased"


Margaret Vicente



On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, celeste perry <[email protected]> wrote:






Thank you, again, Cheri.  I am going to set this one aside until I have more 
concrete information for John M. Machado Deniz.  The "Machado Deniz" caught my 
attention; however, that may just be a fluke.  I am working on trying to get 
more info from the fraternal society to which he belonged, according to his 
granddaughter.  

 
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry [email protected]

--- On Sat, 4/17/10, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:



From: Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge research
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:25 AM





Full transciption (some of it is faded).
1) Manoel, son of Jorge
2) Machado Diniz, son of the same name, and of
3) Maria Florinda (?) da Silveira, already both dead (hyphenated)
4) dead, and of his wife, Maria do Es-
5) prirto Santo, daughter of Manoel Silveira 
6) Pereira and of Barbara Silveira, already both dead (hyphenated)
7) dead, natives of (faded here; doesn't follow wording of next doc) ....
8) (faded) freguesia of Ribeira Seca
9) that (faded) living in this
10) place of Manadas, parish of
11) Santa Barbara, something and Coun-
12) cil of the Vila of Velas, island of Sao Jorge (hyphenated)
13) Jorge; he was born on the day 30 of May
14) of the 30, I meant to say the 25 of
15) July, was baptized something (priest's name?)
16) something.  For godparents Manoel
17) Fidrazo? Pedrazo? de Borba and Izabel Delfina de
18) S. something, both single, both natives of 
19) Biscoitos of Calheta, and freguesia some-
20) thing Parish of Manadenzel? (I thought this was Manadas)
21) I think he's babbling about the priest here
22) and here
23) year of birth? of the baptism
24) one thousand eight hundred seventy and seven.

Someone really needed to water down the vinho for him!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


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