Sorry here is the link for the 1898 marriage of Maria do Rosario daughter
of Genoveva
bottom right top left
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P112.html

Thanks Sandra Valine Dauer

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On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:56 AM Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]>
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> Gayle thanks for the idea.  Here is Maria Rosario marriage record.  I
> think it says illegitimate? daughter of Genoveva da Conceicao with no
> mention of a Father.  Is this correct?  Need help with the lines after
> describing the witness Jose Maria Bettencourt.
>  For Genoveva's daughter Francisca I have not found her marriage record in
> California.  She first married Manuel Vieira Pinheiro, lived in Fresno
> County, California had ten children, Manuel died 1922.  Next she married
> Manuel Rodrigues aka Rodgers or Rogers.  Francisca died 1947 and is buried
> with her first husband in Selma, Calfornia.
> Thanks Sandra Valine Dauer
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> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:39 AM 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
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>> Sandra,
>>
>> This situation does seem unusual (at least to me. ) I checked with CITCEM
>> and that database lists the last three children with “pai incognito” so I
>> went back to the actual records and noticed that the last three were listed
>> as “natural” not legitimate children of Genoveva. I’m wondering whether it
>> was known or merely assumed Manuel Silveira Brum was deceased. If merely
>> assumed, maybe she couldn’t remarry. Have you looked for the marriages of
>> the last three children to see if a “father” was suddenly known or remained
>> incognito ? If known, who was he ? Sounds like fun figuring this out. 🙃
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Genoveva is listing as birth Mother and Manuel Silviera Brum as Father on
>> the first two children.  On the last three children she is listed a widow.
>> On the 4th child widow of Manuel Silveira.  Is the correct on the five
>> records? Anyone have similar ancestors where the Father is absent and or
>> she is considered a widow?  The links are listed below.  Thank you Sandra
>> Valine Dauer
>> 1. Manuel bottom right top left No 18
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P37.html
>>
>> 2. Maria bottom left top right No 81
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P113.html
>>
>> 3. Joao bottom right top left No 84
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P215.html
>>
>> 4. Maria Bottom right top left No 87
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1877/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1877_item1/P74.html
>>
>> 5. Francisca Bottom left top right No 47
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1881_item1/P159.html
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