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> On Aug 9, 2019, at 7:10 AM, <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sandra I do not know if this will help but I might have some information. I > have a Genovera Ignacia being the child of Jose Silveira Carvao de Brum and > Maria de Brum. I just messed up the database on this couple trying to type > the information into this message but I will recover it from what I have > saved to the cloud and get back to you. Do you think this is the same couple. > Doreen > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Sandra Valine Dauer > Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 1:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genoveva Inacia five children livng > Almagreira(Lajes do Pico) > > Thank you for your help. I checked her daughter, Maria Rosario, four > children baptism records from Lajes do Pico: Manuel 24 Nov 1901 list maternal > grandparents Jose Silveira e Genoveva Ignancia; Maria 29 Jan 1904 and Joao 08 > Jun 1908 and Francisca 16 Dec 1906 only list maternal as Genoveva Ignancia. > Sandra Valine Dauer > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 2:27 AM 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy > <[email protected]> wrote: > Sandra, > > Yes. It says illegitimate. Strange since baptism says natural. As for the > witnesses: Jose Maria Bettencourt, proprietor, and Jose Bettencourt de > Macedo, farmer. However, I’m on my phone so I hesitate to say with 100% > certainty. > > Gayle > > PS: Margaret is the true expert. > > On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry here is the link for the 1898 marriage of Maria do Rosario daughter of > Genoveva > bottom right top left > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899/PIC-LJ-LAJES-C-1888-1899_item1/P112.html > > Thanks Sandra Valine Dauer > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:56 AM Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]> wrote: > Gayle thanks for the idea. Here is Maria Rosario marriage record. I think > it says illegitimate? daughter of Genoveva da Conceicao with no mention of a > Father. Is this correct? Need help with the lines after describing the > witness Jose Maria Bettencourt. > For Genoveva's daughter Francisca I have not found her marriage record in > California. She first married Manuel Vieira Pinheiro, lived in Fresno > County, California had ten children, Manuel died 1922. Next she married > Manuel Rodrigues aka Rodgers or Rogers. Francisca died 1947 and is buried > with her first husband in Selma, Calfornia. > Thanks Sandra Valine Dauer > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 12:39 AM 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy > <[email protected]> wrote: > Sandra, > > This situation does seem unusual (at least to me. ) I checked with CITCEM and > that database lists the last three children with “pai incognito” so I went > back to the actual records and noticed that the last three were listed as > “natural” not legitimate children of Genoveva. I’m wondering whether it was > known or merely assumed Manuel Silveira Brum was deceased. If merely assumed, > maybe she couldn’t remarry. Have you looked for the marriages of the last > three children to see if a “father” was suddenly known or remained incognito > ? If known, who was he ? Sounds like fun figuring this out. 🙃 > > Gayle > > On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Sandra Valine Dauer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Genoveva is listing as birth Mother and Manuel Silviera Brum as Father on the > first two children. On the last three children she is listed a widow. On the > 4th child widow of Manuel Silveira. Is the correct on the five records? > Anyone have similar ancestors where the Father is absent and or she is > considered a widow? The links are listed below. Thank you Sandra Valine > Dauer > 1. Manuel bottom right top left No 18 > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P37.html > > 2. Maria bottom left top right No 81 > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P113.html > > 3. Joao bottom right top left No 84 > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P215.html > > 4. Maria Bottom right top left No 87 > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1877/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1877_item1/P74.html > > 5. Francisca Bottom left top right No 47 > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1875-1881_item1/P159.html > > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CABrGor__Vd%3D3DAXkNrga2uu4-PjD0ZBfoUwAF8ku1_PJeJo-3Q%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/D5E60845-3AB3-4FA9-890E-80D3B9D01187%40aol.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CABrGor8ciZOCtng%2BBz0OExO5RPwC1vWP_J071ubWe_%3D_YNnvcQ%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/F6DDB4BF-A9B3-4785-8C3D-937122D926F0%40aol.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CABrGor_QLCkiGfZXu0qT2hYrPMhupBHd%2B-01ZC%2Bwpu-4jH2JFg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d4d7ecc.1c69fb81.b621e.704a%40mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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