On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:33:57PM -0700, Dave Washburn wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Petr Tomasek <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Dave Washburn wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM, K Randolph <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Ken: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ken Penner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Do the following help? > > > >> > > > >> Joüon §59g: "In the light of Ugr. tštḥwy “she prostrates herself,” > > what > > > >> used to be considered hitpa̧ʿlẹl, represented almost entirely by the > > > >> frequent הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה to worship, to prostrate oneself, is most > > likely a > > > >> Hištafʿel of √ חוי." > > > >> > > > > > > > > From where does he get this? > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > What you're seeing, both there and in the Jouon quote, is a grammarian > > > trying desperately to figure out what's going on with this unique word. > > It > > > used to be taught that it was a hitpa`el of $XH with metathesis of the > > shin > > > and the tau, and no clue why the waw. But as Ken already mentioned, > > > Ugaritic has shown us that the root is actually XWH and the stem is a > > > hi$tap`el. Once upon a time we had a grid of stems with a hole in the > > > middle: > > > > > > Basic Emphatic Causative > > > > > > Active qal pi`el hip`il > > > > > > Passive nip`al pu`al hop`al > > > > > > Reflexive nip`al ? hitpa`el > > > > This is wrong: a) nipʿal is not a passive stem originally, > > b) hitpaʿel is not (and never was) a causative stem. > > > > Whoops! You are corect about the hitpa`el. I got it and the question mark > switched. > > In BH at least, the nip'al functions both passively and reflexively. The > chart doesn't really go into what they were originally.
I would nevertheless say that nifʿal is primarily a reflexive stem which may be used to compensate the lack of a genuine passive stem in BH... Petr Tomasek _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
