On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Petr Tomasek <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Dave Washburn wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM, K Randolph <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Ken: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ken Penner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Do the following help? > > >> > > >> Joüon §59g: "In the light of Ugr. tštḥwy “she prostrates herself,” > what > > >> used to be considered hitpa̧ʿlẹl, represented almost entirely by the > > >> frequent הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה to worship, to prostrate oneself, is most > likely a > > >> Hištafʿel of √ חוי." > > >> > > > > > > From where does he get this? > > > > > >> > > >> > > What you're seeing, both there and in the Jouon quote, is a grammarian > > trying desperately to figure out what's going on with this unique word. > It > > used to be taught that it was a hitpa`el of $XH with metathesis of the > shin > > and the tau, and no clue why the waw. But as Ken already mentioned, > > Ugaritic has shown us that the root is actually XWH and the stem is a > > hi$tap`el. Once upon a time we had a grid of stems with a hole in the > > middle: > > > > Basic Emphatic Causative > > > > Active qal pi`el hip`il > > > > Passive nip`al pu`al hop`al > > > > Reflexive nip`al ? hitpa`el > > This is wrong: a) nipʿal is not a passive stem originally, > b) hitpaʿel is not (and never was) a causative stem. > > Whoops! You are corect about the hitpa`el. I got it and the question mark switched. In BH at least, the nip'al functions both passively and reflexively. The chart doesn't really go into what they were originally. -- Dave Washburn Check out my Internet show: http://www.irvingszoo.com Now available: a novel about King Josiah!
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