Thanks, guys, I have a new version up that addresses the issues raised
by Bill and Brian (except that I still call for use of Package Manager
because I think having them start Jconsole is more confusing).
I still need expert help in 2 areas:
1. Under (optional) Install the Qt IDE there is a reference to the
name of the program under Windows but not under other OSs. What should
that name be?
2. The instructions for installing on the Mac are not easy enough to
use. Some of my students are 14-year-old girls with no computer
experience and they have to get J installed. Can somebody write a
sequence of steps that they can understand?
Henry
On 8/2/2015 8:51 PM, Brian Schott wrote:
I note that most references in the current jwiki page are to Qt IDE, but
occasionally the term jqt is used, as a synonym, without a formal
connection being made. I think that should be fixed.
I also note that the reference link to Package manager is at the anchor
#install which is a little jarring to see pop up. As a matter of fact for a
beginner I think the task of requiring the use of Package manager is very
off-putting, and that leads to my next question, below.
Under the Mac installation mention is made of "install 'all'" from
jconsole. What does this do and would it be a good alternative for
beginners of ALL platforms who want to experiment without having to read
all of these instructions carefully?
For example is the JFE JHS always installed on all platforms, and if so why
is it not mentioned in the "What is installed" section?
Bill has added some other comments that must be answered before this jwiki
page is taken out of Beta, imo.
Clearly, I am a little confused about Henry's request that I write a
section. But I offer the text below as a partial draft.
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What is not installed
The next session covers the installation of "packages" which is the main
omission in the installation on all platforms. "Packages" are often called
"Libraries" elsewhere.
As noted above, on some platforms, notably Windows, the Qt IDE is
automatically installed, but in other cases another step is required for
that installation, but both jconsole and JHS are installed automatically.
If the Qt IDE has not been automatically installed, then it can be
installed via the jconsole JFE as described in the link provided.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804
I have tried to respond to the suggestions given here by adding text
explaining things and adding a section focused on new users. There are
errors and omissions that need to be fixed by someone who knows the answers:
1. Android is not listed under the supported platforms
2. There is a note in the installation page saying that jconsole is
renamed to ijconsole; this conflicts with the info under 'What Is
Installed' and later references to jconsole.
3. Someone who knows how to install on:
Mac
Linux
Android
Raspberry Pi
needs to go into the 'If You Are New to J' section and list the steps for
those platforms. There is a lot of information under 'OS-specific
Information' but you'd have to be a geek to make sense of it. We need some
simple instructions for ordinary users, especially Mac users.
Henry Rich
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