Philip Meyer wrote: > >Submenus would be an additional menu level -> makes the whole thing > >tedious to use, up to 5 more klicks until you find an album > > > 5 more clicks? Isn't it one more click to go one level deeper? > Sure. And if the Album you are looking for isn't in the first list you back out and go to the second one. And the 3rd. And then it's between one and 5 clicks more. I said "up to".
> > In a way, I don't really see the point of ordering by album title. If > you know what you are looking for, it's quicker to search? > With the too much exact and slow search in LMS: no. It is if you know exactly what you are looking for but then I'd not go through artists but Albums, faster. But if you know that you are looking for an album of which you almost know the name and you know the artist, then an alphabetical list you can quickly scroll through an index is a fast choice. I experience it every day right now since I started to use the new menus which don't have the index. Sure, it won't work in all cases (e.g. if you only remember a keyword) but it's still a decent ordering criterion. > > I often sort by year (although it would be better if it was year > descending) to see a time-ordered list of album releases. > I know, a lot of people do, but the list looks really arbitrary then especially since my experience is that of albums that are automatically tagged (again, that's what probably >90% of all users have) some 50% or so lack any release year information > Most artists don't have too many albums to worry about shortcuts > (although I do have 296 albums currently in my library for Tangerine > Dream, with another 50 or so CDs that I still need to rip!). > Yes, but for those who don't this whole discussion is moot anyhow, isn't it? I mean, we can discuss for another year about what the best way to sort three albums into a category is for sure :P > > Maybe if regular albums were listed first, the shortcuts could work only > on the secondary sort within the regular albums list, with another > shortcut taking the user to the top of "other" albums. > No space. Where do you want to place all these indices on a phone screen? Also: too confusing, what are all these indices about? No, seriously, at this complexity, we are discussing something here that will in the end be used by 5 people. At max. All others will just throw it out of the window. > > There's a Sort By option, so with a new "Sort By Role, Album" option, > no-one need lose out. > Configuration options are already something for only 5% of all users. Tell me what the option is that 90% of all users want, I'm going to ignore the others. We are not only talking about the web interface here (which is another thing most Squeezebox users don't use; heck, almost half of the iPeng users I talk to don't even know about it when I mention it). > > You could still sort by album title for iPeng, for example, not include > a "Sort by Role, Album" option if you think it wouldn't be usable. > That's the problem: I can do so in the few menus iPeng creates itself and iPeng is probably the only App doing this at all. All other Apps (and menus) will simply get something that looks incredibly unsorted to most users. > > What happens already for the other Sort By options? eg. Sort by "Year, > Artist, Album"? The shortcut bar in Web UI show years. The sort options are for the web interface, not the native interface or controllers. There's a sort option for SqueezePlay as well but it doesn't have the same options as the web interface. And I believe it only affects the top level menu. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101248 _______________________________________________ beta mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
