On Nov 1, 2009, at 16:26, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Sven-S. Porst wrote: > >>> I am not sure what we >>> should do: keep our style, or go to either one of the standard >>> styles. >>> What do others on this list think? >> >> >> Personally I like the style used in Preview and Mail best >> (particularly with the visible resize lines), so I’d prefer that. >> It’d be a nice improvement to have but (also depending on the >> effort required to make this work) I don’t think it’s a >> particularly pressing issue. > > I think the Preview/Mail style is more aesthetically pleasing > without a status bar. However, I think the dark style is more > appropriate and expected with a status bar.
That depends what you mean with a status bar. My idea was to use either the bottom bar or the light gradient, not both. > The HIG refer to a "bottom bar" > > http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/XHIGWindows.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000961-TP9 Which they still did not get right when it comes to size and placement of controls. Have you seen any Apple app that actually uses the recommended height of 22px? I also think that one does not make much sense because it's too small for a button/segmentedcontrol of the proper bezel style and size. > which is supposed to have the same style as the toolbar. Of course, > that bottom bar is non-removable, also. You can add/remove it as a whole of course, but not just in the middle as currently in BD. > I experimented with this a while ago, and it's not bad; one > advantage is that you can use standard controls, and avoid the > fiddly parts of view hiding. > <Screen shot 2009-11-01 at 7.19.48 AM.png> The problem here is that you don't need to hide the views because you removed the segmented control in the middle. With it, we should probably have to hide the buttons on the left when that pane is collapsed. Or perhaps not allow this pane to collapse. Or alternatively, just leave them and shift the middle segmentedcontrol sufficiently. But you need to move the segmented control in the central part with the leftmost divider, because they are supposed to align, as in Address Book. > Are there any Apple apps that have the Mail/Preview gradient > extending across the entire window? Preview 5.0 with the annotation bar. > I think it would look odd, actually...too bright. If the status > bar was removed entirely, of course, the bright gradient would > definitely be the appropriate style. And what about when we want to keep the status message as well as all four buttons/controls? Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-develop mailing list Bibdesk-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-develop
