On Nov 2, 2009, at 23:22, Sven-S. Porst wrote:

Actually, you're wrong. You may not have realized, but the difference
between metal and normal windows has been reduced significantly. So
much even that you did not even realize that iCal uses non-metal
windows!

Well, whatever those are called these days, I stopped keeping track of Apple’s ever new inconsistencies and fads a while ago. Yet the general style of the window keeps having the ‚metal‘ taste: because of the ‚unified‘ toolbar, the draggable bottom bar and the rounded corners at the bottom. I think these kinds of windows inherit from what used to be metal (as opposed to simple document windows without the huge bar and rounded edges at the bottom). iCal’s window is definitely in the metal-ish style (rounded corners at the bottom), while, say, XCode (proper corners, non-draggable status bar) is more like a traditional document window; Safari seems to cover the middle ground (proper corners, but draggable status bar).


Well, believe it or not, but it's not true, iCal is NOT metal style. So in fact Apple is even moving for consistency BETWEEN metal and non- metal, as the differences fade away. I wouldn't be surprised if there would be NO difference left in 10.7. BTW, a unified toolbar style is now 100% equivalent to normal (no metal) window style. So none of these points are relevant anymore, you truly seems to have stopped keeping track somewhere after 10.4. But the whole point of this exercise is to get BD in the 10.5+ era. And Xcode is also non-standard in several ways, so it's really not a good example.

iCal uses the exact same style as the current BD source, the
only difference is that it uses a bottom bar with large controls
rather than one with small controls, but both are standard. I think
small is more appropriate, I think the large controls get a far too
big bottom bar.

Actually I think this is the main reason why don’t like this style of bottom bar. Because you will need a lot of space between the buttons and its edges, buttons consume a load of extra space there which cannot be used to make them more useful.


Not with small buttons, that's the point.

As for the window being draggable by the status bar, that is automatic
(just try).

Of course I did try and it didn’t work, which is why I noted it. It seems to be a bug which appears when you turn on the status bar and then try to drag the window in the status bar.


Then you did not try correctly, because it really does work.

You may also compare iTunes and iPhoto, which are perhaps
much more similar to BD, and have a similar bottom bar.

Despite having a source list, I don’t really think of BibDesk as being in the iPhoto/iTunes class. Those always have a gratuitous / fun aspect to me and cannot handle multiple documents while I think BibDesk should feel like a work application that can handle multiple documents. Hence I’d expect it to look more like a text editor or, say, Mail.

                Sven

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I did not find any comment in the HIG that this bottom bar is related to single-window apps. On the other hand, I do regard Mail as a single- window app. On the other hand, the other alternative is the light Mail- style gradient. But that is not standard for a status bar over the whole window width with text.

Basically what I'm saying is that you're not being consistent with Apple's declared style guidelines, and that's what I'm trying to get to.

Christiaan

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