On Nov 2, 2009, at 21:24, Sven-S. Porst wrote:

>> Actually, if I had followed the HIG they would be even more squashed.
>> Instead, I followed Apple's own apps,  because I'm convinced the HIG
>> is wrong. So in my interpretation the layout of the buttons is
>> according to Apple's style. if you don't like this style, that would
>> be towards Apple, they decided not to follow our lead.
>
> To my eyes the style used in iCal looks a lot better than that in  
> Apple’s other apps.
>
> <PastedGraphic-2.png>
>
> I still think that this style of buttons is a case for applications  
> with a ‚metal‘-style window. And I wouldn’t think of BibDesk as one  
> of those applications. If you want to go with that look, you should  
> add metal window behaviour as well and make the window draggable by  
> the status bar.
>
>               Sven
>
> -- 
> Sven-S. Porst . http://earthlingsoft.net/ssp . AIM: cv47al
> Pass as best inventor!


Actually, you're wrong. You may not have realized, but the difference  
between metal and normal windows has been reduced significantly. So  
much even that you did not even realize that iCal uses non-metal  
windows! iCal uses the exact same style as the current BD source, the  
only difference is that it uses a bottom bar with large controls  
rather than one with small controls, but both are standard. I think  
small is more appropriate, I think the large controls get a far too  
big bottom bar. BTW, the standard bottom bar for metal and non-metal  
windows is slightly different, but very similar, as is the rest of the  
window.

As for the window being draggable by the status bar, that is automatic  
(just try). You may also compare iTunes and iPhoto, which are perhaps  
much more similar to BD, and have a similar bottom bar. So basically,  
it's Apple who tells us we should go for this kind of style. You can  
read it in the HIG. This is also reflected in the fact that I was able  
to drop several custom classes, a lot of lines of custom code, and  
several images by adopting this standard style.

Christiaan


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