I guess I pushed the buttons of the anti-reality movement. Those
of us who are actually doing stuff and not just engaging in the wishful
games of bicycle utopia, which we all want to achieve, will continue to
work and deal with these issues in the real world.
On 1/30/2016 5:39 PM, Grant Foster via Bikies wrote:
http://cal.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2015/11/10-12-2015-NCST_Brief_InducedTravel_CS6_v3.pdf
"The quality of the evidence linking highway capacity expansion to
increased VMT is high...
Increased roadway capacity induces additional VMT in the short-run and
even more VMT in the long-run...
Capacity expansion leads to a net increase in VMT, not simply a
shifting of VMT from one road to another...
Increases in GHG emissions attributable to capacity expansion are
substantial...
Capacity expansion does not increase employment or other economic
activity...
Conversely, reductions in roadway capacity tend to produce social and
economic benefits without worsening traffic congestion..."
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 4:17 PM Matthew Logan via Bikies
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You are stuck in the way of thinking that says traffic levels are
a fixed value, and that we must build highways to accommodate that
fixed value. But traffic is more like a gas – it will expand to
fill whatever container we provide for it.
This means if you take roads away, there will be less driving. If
you add more roads, there will be more driving. The trick, is to
build the roads (and bike paths, and ped facilities) in locations
that promote accessibility.
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So what is, Mike? You did a fantastic job as lead planner at
WisDOT for this area. You gave us bike facilities against
tremendous odds. How do we solve the problem of more and more cars
and trucks in a congested corridor like the Beltline?
On 1/30/2016 12:22 PM, Michael Rewey via Bikies wrote:
Building a new highway is not a solution...
Mike Rewey
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I would think this will take some cars off the Beltline by
providing a more direct and safer bicycle commuter route
between Madison, McFarland and Stoughton. Currently, bicycling
between these communities can only be done under very
challenging conditions, especially at the US 51/Beltline
intersection. The eventual long-term solution to Beltline
traffic congestion, however, will be construction of a
connector between US 18/151 at Verona to I-39/90, which would
eliminate the need for vehicular traffic heading east-west to
go through Madison. There are all sorts of property owner,
economic and environmental issues, but this will eventually
happen to avoid making Madison a transportation choke point.
On 1/29/2016 9:53 PM, Mike Neuman via Bikies wrote:
I would hope that they are building this to relieve some of
auto commuter traffic in the area. But it seems they're bent
on adding more lanes to the beltine regardless. The should use
this money to establish a bus system between Madison and the
outlying communities instead. But of course that won't help
keep the pockets of road and bridge builders full.
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