www.allthingsenvironmental.com Because of this discussion, it gives me a of hint of hope that our Earth inhabitants, especially today and tomorrow's children and all the animals, will somehow have a world that still sustains them and gives them all a world worth living in, prospering, and saving after us baby boomers are all gone. Because of the constructive messages shared to this lively and extremely important discussion for our future, I remain an optimist.
But there is so much to change and so little of time to get it done. Cheaper gas and the continued glorification of owning and using motor vehicles, by irresponsible TV promotions - no doubt partially funded by the oil industry and highway and bridge builders - has easily overcompensated the minuscule fuel efficiency improvements of most vehicles in the U.S.. The WDOT had initially planned to give the public, DNR and the enviros in the early 1980's an option of expanding the So. Beltline on its existing alignment. That turned out to be a mistake because the option they really wanted, as did the road and bridge building companies, would have gone smack over the middle of Upper Mud Lake. They then changed the beltine on new alignment alternative to skirt the entire north shore area of the lake. I had remembered seeing a Great Blue Heron fishing along that shore on one my visits to that area, and of course there would be many acres of wetland located elsewhere that would have had to be filled by the DOT contractors on the beltline relocation alternative that was identified in the Draft EIS. DOT's biggest "mistake" is that they said expansion of the highway on the existing alignment was feasible and that it did not have significant wetland acreage losses, like the off alignment. Because DNR had a policy that no wetlands could be taken if another feasible alternative would be possible. I recommended DNR Secretary declare opposition to the off-alignment which he did. The compromise that resulted made DOT bring the alternative ever further north, thus not destroying Upper Mud Lake's shore and cause fewer wetland losses. The other element the two secretaries agreed on was that DOT would "mitiigate" for the acres of wetland lost by creating new wetland at a 1.5 acre to 1 acre lost, and that such a policy would apply to all DOT projects in the state from then on. However, primarily because of the disruption of climates everywhere, rising sea levels and warmer and more acidic ocean waters, and more extreme weather, deadly heat wares, and the increase of diseases spread by mosquitoes which are known to be expanding their ranges due to global warming, it is essential to work *vociferously at getting our government* to fund program that reward individuals who don't drive or drive less than 1,000 miles, collectively, over one years time.. Read more at www.allthingsenvironmental.com [WORD PRESS SITE} On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, William Hauda via Bikies < [email protected]> wrote: > I guess I pushed the buttons of the anti-reality movement. Those of > us who are actually doing stuff and not just engaging in the wishful games > of bicycle utopia, which we all want to achieve, will continue to work and > deal with these issues in the real world. > > > On 1/30/2016 5:39 PM, Grant Foster via Bikies wrote: > > > http://cal.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2015/11/10-12-2015-NCST_Brief_InducedTravel_CS6_v3.pdf > > "The quality of the evidence linking highway capacity expansion to > increased VMT is high... > > Increased roadway capacity induces additional VMT in the short-run and > even more VMT in the long-run... > > Capacity expansion leads to a net increase in VMT, not simply a shifting > of VMT from one road to another... > > Increases in GHG emissions attributable to capacity expansion are > substantial... > > Capacity expansion does not increase employment or other economic > activity... > > Conversely, reductions in roadway capacity tend to produce social and > economic benefits without worsening traffic congestion..." > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 4:17 PM Matthew Logan via Bikies < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> You are stuck in the way of thinking that says traffic levels are a fixed >> value, and that we must build highways to accommodate that fixed value. >> But traffic is more like a gas – it will expand to fill whatever container >> we provide for it. >> >> This means if you take roads away, there will be less driving. If you >> add more roads, there will be more driving. The trick, is to build the >> roads (and bike paths, and ped facilities) in locations that promote >> accessibility. >> >> >> >> *From:* Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >> *William >> Hauda via Bikies >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2016 2:53 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Longest bike bridge in Wisconsin coming to Dane >> County in 2017 | Local News | host.madison.com >> >> >> >> So what is, Mike? You did a fantastic job as lead planner at WisDOT for >> this area. You gave us bike facilities against tremendous odds. How do we >> solve the problem of more and more cars and trucks in a congested corridor >> like the Beltline? >> >> On 1/30/2016 12:22 PM, Michael Rewey via Bikies wrote: >> >> Building a new highway is not a solution... >> >> >> >> Mike Rewey >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 Jan 2016 at 3:10, William Hauda via Bikies wrote: >> >> >> >> *To:* <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> >> *Date sent:* Sat, 30 Jan 2016 03:10:39 -0600 >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Bikies] Longest bike bridge in >> Wisconsin coming to Dane County >> >> in 2017 | Local News | host.madison.com >> >> *From:* William Hauda via Bikies >> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> >> *Send reply to:* William Hauda <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> <[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> <[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> <[email protected]?subject=subscribe> >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> >> <[email protected]?subject=subscribe> >> >> >> >> >> >> I would think this will take some cars off the Beltline by providing >> a more direct and safer bicycle commuter route between Madison, McFarland >> and Stoughton. Currently, bicycling between these communities can only be >> done under very challenging conditions, especially at the US 51/Beltline >> intersection. The eventual long-term solution to Beltline traffic >> congestion, however, will be construction of a connector between US 18/151 >> at Verona to I-39/90, which would eliminate the need for vehicular traffic >> heading east-west to go through Madison. There are all sorts of property >> owner, economic and environmental issues, but this will eventually happen >> to avoid making Madison a transportation choke point. >> >> On 1/29/2016 9:53 PM, Mike Neuman via Bikies wrote: >> >> I would hope that they are building this to relieve some of auto commuter >> traffic in the area. But it seems they're bent on adding more lanes to the >> beltine regardless. The should use this money to establish a bus system >> between Madison and the outlying communities instead. But of course that >> won't help keep the pockets of road and bridge builders full. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Robert F. 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