William, it is possible to have a disagreement without being a total jerk.
Calling people you disagree with "the anti-reality movement" is uncalled
for.

You are a disgrace. This is not good public discourse. This is far from
the first time you have used language like this on this list serve.

Al Matano
Dane County Board, District 11


> When I first started following transportation issues in the area, over
> 20 years ago, I participated in a focus group of bikies about the
> Verona Road/Beltline issue.  And probably a dozen meetings, open
> houses, charretes, etc since then. And every time sensible people
> pointed out the need for non-SOV solutions.
>
> In the intervening years, the Transport 2020 plan has been gathering
> dust, because public transportation is "too expensive".
>
> And now we're dropping over $175(?) Million just on the Verona Road
> interchange.
>
> That's our reality.
>
> Quoting Robbie Webber via Bikies <[email protected]>:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 6:12 PM, William Hauda via Bikies <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>     I guess I pushed the buttons of the anti-reality  movement. Those
>>> of
>>> us who are actually doing stuff and not just engaging in the wishful
>>> games
>>> of bicycle utopia, which we all want to achieve, will continue to work
>>> and
>>> deal with  these issues in the real world.
>>>
>>
>> As someone who actually does work with state DOTs as my day job
>> (although
>> sadly, not WisDOT), I can tell you that many state DOTs in both red and
>> blue states, rural and urban, and all areas of the country, are
>> realizing
>> that highway expansion is not the answer to congestion. Also, congestion
>> is
>> not the metric that they will be using 20 years from now.
>> p with which I am affiliated.
>
>
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