O yeah that's why I use my tool for OE to do that verything. it seperates all the people I put in the to field in to separate messages. I can see them in my outbox that way nobody knows who else I'm sending it to.. SA&G
:> Actually, I think it's proper manners, or etiquette, to send the same :> message separately to more than one list instead of sehdning it to :> multiple lists at the same time. What do you all think? I've :> resorted to :> this method now, and no one's complained yet. Thanks! :> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:52:35 -0400, "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :> said: :>> o ok Many thanks for clearing that up. I really wasn't sure what was :>> meant :>> by cross posting but now that I know I will try not to do it. What :>> if you were to write one message to one list select the text copy :>> it to the clip board and paste the same message to another list but :>> opening up a new message? say I wanted to write to blind computing :>> and jaws users and write :>> the same message. well if I was to write one message to blind :>> computing and :>> then select all the text using alt a and then copy it to the clip :>> board and :>> then paste the same message in the message that I was sending to :>> the jaws :>> users list with the same subject as the one that I was sending to :>> the blind :>> computing list would that be considered anything? many thanks for :>> your reply. from Mich Verrier. :>> ----- Original Message ----- :>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>> To: <[email protected]> :>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:23 PM :>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :>> :>> :>> > That is considered cross posting and isn't good etiquette for :>> > mailing lists. :>> > Also using BCC breaks peoples filters and is also considered bad :>> > etiquette on lists as well. :>> > :>> > Rick :>> > :>> > ----- Original Message ----- :>> > From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>> > To: <[email protected]> :>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:07 PM :>> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :>> > :>> > :>> > ok I have a much more simple solution. why not just compose one :>> > message and :>> > go in to your cc field or bcc fealed in OE or something and :>> > then put the address of another list in that field and that way :>> > you can send it to both lists with out having to go through all :>> > that work? from Mich Verrier. That is what I do and it seems to :>> > work quite fine for me. ----- Original Message ----- :>> > From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>> > To: <[email protected]> :>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:22 PM :>> > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :>> > :>> > :>> >> OK Gang, :>> >> :>> >> Richard and David have chastised folks for cross-posting and :>> >> suggested that :>> >> we send separate messages -- although possibly identical -- to :>> >> each list separately. However, it occurred to me that some of :>> >> you may not realize a :>> >> convenient way to do this. So, I'm offering two ways to do just :>> >> that: :>> >> :>> >> 1) Open up your text editor and compose the message/question :>> >> and then copy :>> >> the entire contents of that text session ( <CONTROL> + <A> ) :>> >> into the clipboard, then paste the clipboard contents ( :>> >> <CONTROL> + <P> ) into the two separate messages - one for each :>> >> list. :>> >> :>> >> 2) Or you can simply compose an original message for one list, :>> >> then using :>> >> the <CONTROL>+<A> (copy all) and <CONTROL>+<P> commands to copy :>> >> the message :>> >> from one email composition for one list into a second email :>> >> composition for :>> >> the second list. :>> >> :>> >> Actually, I'm using the first method to send this message to :>> >> both the Blind :>> >> Computing and JAWS Users list. :>> >> :>> >> ---------------- :>> >> Bill Gallik :>> >> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> - "The keenest sorrow is to recognize ourselves as the sole :>> >> cause of all our :>> >> adversities." :>> >> - Sophocles :>> >> ----- Original Message ----- :>> >> From: "Moderator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :>> >> To: "blind-computing" <[email protected]> :>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:52 AM :>> >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] MEMO TO THE LIST :>> >> :>> >> :>> >> All, :>> >> In the past month the membership to both lists has grown, :>> >> causing the management team :>> >> to take a closer look at general list operation. :>> >> A couple of items have come to the attention of the management :>> >> team :>> >> and this applies to both the blind-computing, and jaws-users :>> >> lists. Members that are subscribed to both lists, will get this :>> >> twice since it will :>> >> be posted to both :>> >> lists. :>> >> 1. Cross-posting :>> >> Recently, it appears that the number of cross-postings to the :>> >> list has increased. :>> >> We need to bring this method of posting to an end. :>> >> Besides the fact that cross-posting is improper e-mail list :>> >> etiquet, it's benefits are out-weighed by the problems it causes. :>> >> Plain and simplly put, it's nothing less than laziness on the :>> >> part of the poster. :>> >> This method of posting plays havoc with some peoples message :>> >> rules in their :>> >> e-mail client. :>> >> This practice is annoying, as well as inconsiderate, and :>> >> discourteous to others. :>> >> Members should not have to adjust their message rules , to :>> >> accomodate those :>> >> who won't take an extra :>> >> minute or so to post in a proper manner. :>> >> Additionally, it generates unnecessary list traffic, and :>> >> actually serves to :>> >> slow the overall :>> >> performance of the list. :>> >> If you want to post the same question to multiple lists, then it :>> >> should be :>> >> done on an individual :>> >> message basis. :>> >> I currently subscribe to more than 30 lists, and on occasion I :>> >> will post the :>> >> same question to :>> >> several lists, but I do it without cross-posting. :>> >> If you are subscribed to several lists, as I'm sure many are, :>> >> then :>> >> post your question to the list that is most appropriate for it. :>> >> If you don't recieve an answer, then you can :>> >> figure 1 of 2 things generally speaking: :>> >> Either no one on-list has an answer to your question, or the :>> >> person that has :>> >> an answer hasn't read :>> >> the message yet. :>> >> If you don't get an answer on a specialized list such as for :>> >> example jaws-users.com, :>> >> Then post your question to a more generalized list such as :>> >> blind-computing.com. :>> >> There is a list of e-mail lists on the resources page at: :>> >> www.blind-computing.com :>> >> that includes links to other pages that contain additional :>> >> e-mail list information. :>> >> Also, just like placing o/t in the subject field doesn't make it :>> >> okay to post the message, :>> >> saying I apologize, or sorry for the cross-posting doesn't :>> >> excuse the action. :>> >> Placing this statement in the message says that the poster has :>> >> only one consideration, and that is :>> >> themselves. :>> >> Don't perform the action, and you won't have to apologize for it. :>> >> For those in an employment situation, I can understand your :>> >> sense of urgency :>> >> for an answer to a :>> >> problem, :>> >> but you get what you pay for, and if you expect a quick answer :>> >> to your question, you should be :>> >> getting tech support on a pay-for basis, where you can have more :>> >> of a say in :>> >> how your request is :>> >> handled. :>> >> Let's remenmber that e-mail lists are comprised of people of all :>> >> computing :>> >> skills, :>> >> and that noone here is getting paid for the assistance they :>> >> offer. :>> >> If you are not in an employment situation, and your questions :>> >> are aimed at :>> >> personal computing, then, :>> >> there should be less of a sense of urgency. :>> >> Everyone on the list does their best to respond in a timely :>> >> mmanner. :>> >> So, we all need to be patient. :>> >> Keep in mind, that this doesn't mean one type of user is more :>> >> deserving of :>> >> help than another. :>> >> David and I will work on the appropriate wording for this , and :>> >> it will be :>> >> added to the list :>> >> guidelines, at the earliest possible time. :>> >> :>> >> 2. File Requests. :>> >> Recently, we have had some excellent contributions to the list, :>> >> from within :>> >> the membership. :>> >> And we want to encourage this to continue. :>> >> We will be working on a better system of file distribution, :>> >> so that when menmbers have files they want to share with the :>> >> list, :>> >> we have a way for members to get the file, or files to the :>> >> management team :>> >> so that we can make them readily available to all list members. :>> >> The reason for this, is thatwhen a member posts to the list, :>> >> that they have :>> >> files to share, :>> >> this dramatically increases list traffic and band width. :>> >> In order to stream the process and make it more efficient, we :>> >> will see what :>> >> we can put in place :>> >> to facilitate this. :>> >> If we can make this happen, then there will be no need to post :>> >> to the list :>> >> asking people to send files privately. :>> >> If a member has a file that may benefit other users, and he or :>> >> she wants to :>> >> send it to another :>> >> member privately, :>> >> then they need to take that transaction completely off-list. :>> >> This will greatly reduce the occurance of people flooding the :>> >> list with requests for private e-mail attachments. :>> >> How it works: :>> >> When a member has a file to share with the list membership, :>> >> they need only make it available to the management team. :>> >> At this point, the management team can put the file in an :>> >> accessible location, and then make the :>> >> membership aware of that location, :>> >> with only one post to the list. :>> >> Now, you can see that 1 message is posted, but the file is :>> >> available to all :>> >> members. :>> >> Instant reduction in redundent messages to the list. :>> >> 3. Just a reminder, that we all, management team included, need :>> >> to try and :>> >> keep our subject lines on :>> >> track. :>> >> If David has additional comments he will post them in a seperate :>> >> post. :>> >> :>> >> Richard Justice-list moderator :>> >> David A. Ferrin list owner :>> >> www.blind-computing.com :>> >> www.jaws-users.com :>> >> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> >> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> >> Address for the list archives: :>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> >> To post to this group, send email to :>> >> [email protected] :>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> >> subject or :>> >> body of a blank message to: :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> >> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> >> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> >> following :>> >> address: :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> :>> >> :>> >> :>> >> :>> >> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> >> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> >> Address for the list archives: :>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> >> To post to this group, send email to :>> >> [email protected] :>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> >> subject or body of a blank message to: :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> >> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> >> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> >> following address: :>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> >> :>> > :>> > :>> > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> > http://www.blind-computing.com :>> > Address for the list archives: :>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> > To post to this group, send email to :>> > [email protected] :>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> > subject or :>> > body of a blank message to: :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> > following :>> > address: :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > :>> > :>> > Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> > http://www.blind-computing.com :>> > Address for the list archives: :>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> > To post to this group, send email to :>> > [email protected] :>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> > subject or body of a blank message to: :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> > http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> > If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> > following address: :>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> > :>> :>> :>> Visit the Blind Computing List home page at: :>> http://www.blind-computing.com :>> Address for the list archives: :>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ :>> To post to this group, send email to :>> [email protected] :>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the :>> subject or body of a blank message to: :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> Use the following form in order to contact the management team :>> http://www.blind-computing.com/contact.php :>> If you wish to join the JAWS Users List send a blank email to the :>> following address: :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Christopher Hallsworth :> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> Skype name chrishallsworth7266 :> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> :> Why not join the Blind Hobbyist mailing list! 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