Hi Travis.
You say you sometimes run your own mud.
I was wondering, are there any mud servers I can run under windows?
If so, I was planning on running the server, then using a mud client to play it 
locally.  My internet connection is not very stable, and playing a text game on 
someone else's server has never really apeeled to me.

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From: Travis Siegel <[email protected]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 24/01/2023 4:52:42 AM
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I'm a bit muddy...
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Muds are simply games that are hosted online. There's thousands of them, in every genre, so your first problem is choosing one that fits the kind of game you want to play.

They are text based, so a simple telnet client is all you need to play them.

There are mud clients that make interacting with the muds easier, but they are by no means essential to play.

Sincce you're new though, you should probably give it a try with a mud that does have features for visually impaired users, such as 3k, or alteraeon, since both of those muds have features to cut down on the amount of spam you receive while logged into the game, and that can make a huge difference even for veteran players.

Basically though, head on over to the mud connector

http://www.mudconnect.com, look for a mud that looks interesting, and have at it.

When you first log into a mud, you can (generally) use any name you like, since it's a game, the point is to have fun, so nobody needs (or in most cases wants) to know you real name, so just pick something that sounds good to you, and run with it.

As you get more and more experience with muds, you'll gravitate to particular kinds of muds or particular mud drivers/systems. Some folks love the diku style muds (circle, rom, tartarus, envy, and so on), others prefer a more custom esperience, LPC muds (btw, 3k and lostsouls are both lpc muds), Alteraeon is a custom written driver that kind of resembles both circle and lpc, but it's agood combination that works.

If you're looking for a mud that has lots of other blind players so you can get assistance, alteraeon might be where you want to start, but if you're interested in just trying things out, 3k may be where you want to start, because they have areas for science, fantasy, and chaos (thus the 3 kingdoms monicre), but they do have a bit of a newbie friendly zone to get started in, though it's nowhere near as guided as you might find on circle based muds, what with their newbie school that practically walks you through the first few levels, telling you what to type, how to type it, and when to do different things. I was never a fan of that myself, but I do see the appeal.

So, anyway, either take a listing from the mailing list that looks good to you, or check mudconnector and find something for yourself you think might work, then dive in, you can't break it.

There's tons of mud clients, aand to be perfectly honest, I've never in my life used anything other than a mainstream mud client. I've never even tried those put out specifically for visually impaired users, because I personally can't stand the hand holding most mud clients try to do (even for sighted folks), which is why I've stuck to things like muddle and tintin over the years, because those both have scripting languages, but it's more or less up to the user to do their own scripting to make it do what they want, and that's more my style. I never did like preconfigured clients that only allow me to do cer5tain things, because someone thought it was a good idea to protect me from commands I might accidentally type.

(why? You can't break anything, so why bother?)

The first mud ZI ever played on was called dark wind, and I believe that mud is gone now, although it still existed a few years ago. That was also the first mud I became a wizard on, and built areas for other players to use.

I've also run my own muds from time to time, (rom, LPMud, mordor, empire, and others, but running a mud is a *lot* of work, and I just don't have the patience for it.

I did host muds for several years in the late 90s, but I eventually got out of that too, dealing with customer requests got out of hand, even with terms clearly outlined I was still being asked to compile a mud, fix a bug, and so on and so on. You run the mud, it's up to you to maintain the thing. Too many folks thought running a mud was a s simple as putting up a server, and the players show up. <sigh>

Anyway, that's neither here nor there.

The take away from this message is that there's thousands of muds out there, find one that works for you, and you'll be happy.


On 1/23/2023 11:32 AM, Day Garwood wrote:
Hi,

I've seen a lot of messages here about muds. I'm getting the impression that, given that not many audiogames are made any more, seems like muds are the way forward if I want to try anything new.

I don't know a lot about them, in fact I thought "mud" was a game, but based on messages that I'm seeing I'm getting the impression they're merely a type of game.

The only think I really know is that you need a "mud client", suggesting that they're online based. That makes me think of things like QuentinC and RS, but even that doesn't quite sound right somehow.

Years ago, I tried to use VIPMud but got nowhere, then was told that it wasn't supported so I should go use this other thing (which was apparently better anyway). My teacher then Enthusiastically got me to press loads of buttons, only to discover that I got a whole screenload of errors, and then they didn't know what to do with themselves and clicked off. So bang went that idea.

That was the last I heard about muds for a while, up to now.

So I'd be interested to know how they work, how I might go about trying one without embarrassing myself, which client I should try, which game I should try, etc etc.

Even better, if someone has any free time and would be willing to actually sit and go through it with me step by step privately on a call or something, that would be amazing. Especially since the one lesson I learned from my disaster of a session is that it's not a case of download, launch, play, like most audiogames are.

It'll probably turn out to be one of those things that sounds overly complicated now, but in a year I'll be a whiz at it. Hopefully.

Cheers.












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