Hi, Shaun. I'm sorry, but I am going to say no more than I have already said about the security issue. By answering your questions I would be giving away to much information on how exactly the USA Games can be compromised.
shaun everiss wrote: > Will this take long? > I don't mean to be rood, but would this hacker have to write a program > to hack into this hole, or would he be able to enter a code into a box > and it just would work. > I don't think we have that sort of competant hacker on here. > At 10:37 a.m. 21/02/2006, you wrote: > >Hi, Shaun. > >yes, that is correct. we have to start over from scratch if we switch to > >C++. > > > > > >shaun everiss wrote: > >> so this means you need to redo the usagames engine to then? > >> At 08:58 a.m. 21/02/2006, you wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, Shaun. > >>> I really can't even begin to make a guess at when the updated STFC > 1.0 > >>> would be ready. As you might guess some code can be directly > copied or > >>> salvaged, and some of it has to be rewritten do to C++ specific > language > >>> requirements. > >>> One thing right now is I don't have the USA Games engine now that > it has > >>> the same security issues as the game so everything is upside down, > and > >>> needs to be rethought from the ground up. > >>> > >>> > >>> shaun everiss wrote: > >>> > >>>> I understand, gmagames have a system hardware id bassed system, > and others have simular id based systems. > >>>> Just don't go the way of ms with activation punnishing the lagit > guys thats all. > >>>> Also if you decide to make your data files non hackable, there > are those of us that contribute sound and like to look at our sounds > we put in places. > >>>> When will the stfc port be ready in the new c++ code? > >>>> At 09:53 p.m. 20/02/2006, you wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi, Shaun. > >>>>> While it is true there is no way for a developer to absolutely > secure a > >>>>> product from theft, cracks, and piracy there are ways to make it > harder > >>>>> and minimize the chances. > >>>>> If you think of it this way you can't completely secure your > home from > >>>>> burglers, but you will do whatever is necessary to make it harder. > >>>>> Before you leave you check the windows to make sure they are > down and > >>>>> locked, lock the doors, and if you have one arm the security panel. > >>>>> Noone I know of in a high crime neighborhood leaves for work > with the > >>>>> back door unlocked, an open window for people to crawl in to, or > owns a > >>>>> security panel and decides to leave it off. They would at least > do those > >>>>> security measures to make sure their home was safer than it would > >>>>> otherwise have been. > >>>>> As for piracy in this comunity sad to say, but I recently found out > >>>>> there were an alarming number of accessible gamers pirating > GMA's Shades > >>>>> of Doom 1.0. Even though there were plenty of honest gamers like > me who > >>>>> baught their copies GMA and my company USA Games must protect > our games > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> >from those less than honest people as best we can. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> shaun everiss wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Well I suppose you know what you are doing. > >>>>>> Its however good to note that nothing is secure, as you can't > secure for everything and or anything. > >>>>>> I would never hack a program though. > >>>>>> I am not like that. > >>>>>> At 08:55 p.m. 20/02/2006, you wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, Matt. > >>>>>>> Thanks. I only wish I had taken more time to research security > before I > >>>>>>> began writing STFC. If I had known how security week the final > product > >>>>>>> would be I would have of course done things much different. As > it stands > >>>>>>> I can not release the game as is, as any reasonably compatent > hacker > >>>>>>> could crack the game in a matter of minutes which is not > exceptable. > >>>>>>> However, on the bright side of this I am finding out some good > >>>>>>> alternatives to doing things and if I choose that route USA > Games not > >>>>>>> only will be more secure, but there are some extra bonuses > involved. > >>>>>>> I am currently strongly thinking of converting all projects to > C++. Not > >>>>>>> only would I have a better security for the game there is better > >>>>>>> documentation for writing game scripting engines, better > support for > >>>>>>> SAPI tts engines, etc.... So this might have a bright side to it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> matt wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That is bad news. I must commend you though for being a game > creator who > >>>>>>>> comes out and says when something is going wrong. I do not > mean anything bad > >>>>>>>> about anyone else just saying that is a cool thing to say. I > wish you the > >>>>>>>> best of luck in fixing the problem. Later, Matt > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:25 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: audyssey: USA Games news. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> USA Games News > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2/20/2006 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> STFC Release in Doubt > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Greetings gamers, > >>>>>>>>> We at USA Games have some good and bad news for our fans of > STFC. The > >>>>>>>>> good news the game is practically complete and is pretty > reliable. The > >>>>>>>>> bad news is that recently we have discovered some security > issues with > >>>>>>>>> the product which is of grave concern to me inparticular. As > a result > >>>>>>>>> this security issue could set development back for months, > and at the > >>>>>>>>> least a few weeks. > >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the nature of the issue forces USA Games to > choose > >>>>>>>>> between two options. the first option is to pay a quite a > sum of money > >>>>>>>>> to purchase licenses for pro grade security applications. > The second > >>>>>>>>> option USA Games rewrites STFC in a language in which this > security hole > >>>>>>>>> is not a factor. As USA Games does not currently have the > funds for the > >>>>>>>>> former choice it will likely come down to the second choice. > However, > >>>>>>>>> after just completing the game I am not in any mood to start > over and > >>>>>>>>> port the current game to something new. > >>>>>>>>> As a result of this security discovery USA Games is haulting > production > >>>>>>>>> on all of our titles until a suitable security can be > devised. It is > >>>>>>>>> possible some projects may have to be rewritten from > scratch, or at the > >>>>>>>>> very least wait until USA Games has enough funds to complete > them using > >>>>>>>>> pro grade security software. > >>>>>>>>> I hope that in the future USA Games will be able to bring > some truly > >>>>>>>>> awesome titles to you all, but for the time being we will be > returning > >>>>>>>>> to research and experiment. 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