We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that the TAG review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd like to wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback.

On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote:
I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate.

*.foo.com <http://foo.com> does not match foo.com <http://foo.com>.

~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're)

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> wrote:

    The example in the description is a bit confusing found here:
    https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664

    Before, a permissions policy might need to look like:

    ```
    permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com";
    "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";)
    ```

    With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy:

    ```
    ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com
    <https://%2A.foo.com/>")
    ```

    One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self
    "https://*.foo.com <https://%2A.foo.com/>")` instead. As you're
    used `foo.com <http://foo.com>` twice!

    ----

    Would it not be better to use `foo.com <http://foo.com>` and
    `example.com <http://example.com>` instead e.g.

    Before, a permissions policy might need to look like:

    ```
    permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self
    "https://example.com
    <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com" "https://cdn2.foo.com";)
    ```

    With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy:

    ```
    ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com
    <https://foo.com/>" "https://*.foo.com <https://%2A.foo.com/>")
    ```

    Which would make more sense.


    On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org
    wrote:

        Sorry about that:
        https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679
        https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51


        ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're)

        On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org>
        wrote:



            On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula
            <ari...@chromium.org> wrote:

                Contact emails

                ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org


                Design Doc

                
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit
                
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit>


                Specification

                https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479
                <https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479>


                Summary

                This feature will add support for wildcard in
                permissions policy structured like
                SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/
                <http://foo.com/>) where a valid Origin could be
                constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT (e.g.,
                https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least
                eTLD+1 (a registrable domain). This means that
                https://*.bar.foo.com/ <http://bar.foo.com/> works but
                https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all domains
                to use the feature, you should just delegate to *).
                Wildcards in the scheme and port section will be
                unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ <http://foo.com/>
                does not delegate to https://foo.com/.


                Before, a permissions policy might need to look like:

                permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self
                "https://foo.com"; "https://cdn1.foo.com";
                "https://cdn2.foo.com";)


                With this feature, it could look like:

                permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self
                "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com <http://foo.com>")

                Blink component

                Blink>PermissionsAPI
                
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI>

                Motivation

                The Permissions Policy specification
                <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/>“defines
                a mechanism that allows developers to selectively
                enable and disable use of various browser features and
                APIs.” One capability of this mechanism allows
                features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated
                origins (e.g., https://foo.com/). This mechanism is
                not flexible enough for the design of some CDNs, which
                deliver content via an origin that might be hosted on
                one of several hundred possible subdomains.


                TAG review

                https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765
                <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765>


                Compatibility

                Depending on their user base, sites may want to
                entertain a transition period for older Chromium
                clients, where they enumerate all subdomains and
                include the wildcard in the permissions policy.


                        Interoperability

                We would be the first to implement if approved.

                Gecko: Will ask

                WebKit: Will ask


            Links to signal requests?

                Web developers:
                https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479
                <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108>


                        Debuggability

                Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab
                
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit>.


                Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?

                No, but it will be.


                Tracking bug

                https://crbug.com/1345994 <https://crbug.com/1345994>


                Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status

                https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664
                <https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664>


                ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're)
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