LGTM2 On Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 18:28 Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Great. LGTM1 then! > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:26 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Ah, yes I responded to that comment and believe it would be possible to >> support that future extension without having to un-ship this version of >> wildcards. >> >> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:21 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Essentially, this comment >>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454> >>> suggested >>> a negation syntax, which looks like a feature request, but may be good to >>> ensure that the current parsing algorithm would enable such future >>> extensions. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:17 PM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I haven't seen the notes from the meeting (don't see them here: >>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2022/telcons), do you >>>> have a copy and/or can you describe the forward-compatible cases? >>>> >>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:38 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ari, >>>>> >>>>> There were some questions on the TAG review about potential extensions >>>>> to the syntax for additional use cases. Just checking: do you think the >>>>> current design is forward-compatible with these use cases? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:39 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There was one comment on the TAG thread: >>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454 >>>>>> >>>>>> Mozilla just published a positive position: >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that >>>>>>> the TAG review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd >>>>>>> like to wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *.foo.com does not match foo.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The example in the description is a bit confusing found here: >>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>> "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>>> https://*.foo.com";)` instead. As you're used `foo.com` twice! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would it not be better to use `foo.com` and `example.com` instead >>>>>>>> e.g. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>>> https://example.com <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com"; " >>>>>>>> https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com >>>>>>>> <https://foo.com/>" "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which would make more sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry about that: >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula < >>>>>>>>>> ari...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Design Doc >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This feature will add support for wildcard in permissions policy >>>>>>>>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) >>>>>>>>>>> where a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT >>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., >>>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least eTLD+1 >>>>>>>>>>> (a registrable domain). This means that https://*.bar.foo.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> works but https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all >>>>>>>>>>> domains to use the feature, you should just delegate to *). >>>>>>>>>>> Wildcards in >>>>>>>>>>> the scheme and port section will be unsupported and https://*. >>>>>>>>>>> foo.com/ does not delegate to https://foo.com/. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com"; "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blink component >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI >>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Motivation >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Permissions Policy specification >>>>>>>>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines >>>>>>>>>>> a mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and >>>>>>>>>>> disable use of >>>>>>>>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this >>>>>>>>>>> mechanism allows >>>>>>>>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g., >>>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for >>>>>>>>>>> the design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that >>>>>>>>>>> might be >>>>>>>>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> TAG review >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a >>>>>>>>>>> transition period for older Chromium clients, where they enumerate >>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>> subdomains and include the wildcard in the permissions policy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gecko: Will ask >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WebKit: Will ask >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Links to signal requests? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Web developers: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab >>>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, but it will be. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1345994 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL-%2BBuNvSh46_qWHeCi%3DwY4f_%2BRzA4MN73sx9hp55qBLg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL-%2BBuNvSh46_qWHeCi%3DwY4f_%2BRzA4MN73sx9hp55qBLg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAL5BFfXpc5BWaf-bY_UVGn2qzAmzVndQeVswvNhOAFoaZz14ow%40mail.gmail.com.
