Hi Ari, There were some questions on the TAG review about potential extensions to the syntax for additional use cases. Just checking: do you think the current design is forward-compatible with these use cases?
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:39 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> wrote: > There was one comment on the TAG thread: > https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454 > > Mozilla just published a positive position: > https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 > > ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that the TAG >> review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd like to >> wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback. >> >> On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote: >> >> I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate. >> >> *.foo.com does not match foo.com. >> >> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The example in the description is a bit confusing found here: >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>> >>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>> >>> ``` >>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; " >>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>> ``` >>> >>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>> >>> ``` >>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>> ``` >>> >>> One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>> https://*.foo.com";)` instead. As you're used `foo.com` twice! >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Would it not be better to use `foo.com` and `example.com` instead e.g. >>> >>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>> >>> ``` >>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com >>> <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>> ``` >>> >>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>> >>> ``` >>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com <https://foo.com/>" " >>> https://*.foo.com";) >>> ``` >>> >>> Which would make more sense. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry about that: >>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51 >>>> >>>> >>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula <ari...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>> >>>>>> ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Design Doc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit >>>>>> >>>>>> Specification >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>> >>>>>> Summary >>>>>> >>>>>> This feature will add support for wildcard in permissions policy >>>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) >>>>>> where a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT (e.g., >>>>>> https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least eTLD+1 (a >>>>>> registrable domain). This means that https://*.bar.foo.com/ works >>>>>> but https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all domains to use >>>>>> the feature, you should just delegate to *). Wildcards in the scheme and >>>>>> port section will be unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ does not >>>>>> delegate to https://foo.com/. >>>>>> >>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>> >>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; " >>>>>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>> >>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: >>>>>> >>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>> "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blink component >>>>>> >>>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI >>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Motivation >>>>>> >>>>>> The Permissions Policy specification >>>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines a >>>>>> mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and disable use of >>>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this mechanism >>>>>> allows >>>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g., >>>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for the >>>>>> design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that might be >>>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. >>>>>> >>>>>> TAG review >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765 >>>>>> >>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a >>>>>> transition period for older Chromium clients, where they enumerate all >>>>>> subdomains and include the wildcard in the permissions policy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Interoperability >>>>>> >>>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gecko: Will ask >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> WebKit: Will ask >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Links to signal requests? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Web developers: >>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108> >>>>>> >>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>> >>>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab >>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, but it will be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>> >>>>>> https://crbug.com/1345994 >>>>>> >>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>> >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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