Essentially, this comment <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454> suggested a negation syntax, which looks like a feature request, but may be good to ensure that the current parsing algorithm would enable such future extensions.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:17 PM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> wrote: > I haven't seen the notes from the meeting (don't see them here: > https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2022/telcons), do you > have a copy and/or can you describe the forward-compatible cases? > > ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:38 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Ari, >> >> There were some questions on the TAG review about potential extensions to >> the syntax for additional use cases. Just checking: do you think the >> current design is forward-compatible with these use cases? >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:39 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> There was one comment on the TAG thread: >>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454 >>> >>> Mozilla just published a positive position: >>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>> >>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that the >>>> TAG review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd like >>>> to wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback. >>>> >>>> On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote: >>>> >>>> I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate. >>>> >>>> *.foo.com does not match foo.com. >>>> >>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The example in the description is a bit confusing found here: >>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>> >>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>> >>>>> ``` >>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; " >>>>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>> ``` >>>>> >>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>> >>>>> ``` >>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>> ``` >>>>> >>>>> One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>> https://*.foo.com";)` instead. As you're used `foo.com` twice! >>>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> Would it not be better to use `foo.com` and `example.com` instead e.g. >>>>> >>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>> >>>>> ``` >>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com >>>>> <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>> ``` >>>>> >>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>> >>>>> ``` >>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com <https://foo.com/> >>>>> " "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>> ``` >>>>> >>>>> Which would make more sense. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry about that: >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula <ari...@chromium.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Design Doc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This feature will add support for wildcard in permissions policy >>>>>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) >>>>>>>> where a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT >>>>>>>> (e.g., >>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least eTLD+1 (a >>>>>>>> registrable domain). This means that https://*.bar.foo.com/ works >>>>>>>> but https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all domains to use >>>>>>>> the feature, you should just delegate to *). Wildcards in the scheme >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> port section will be unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ does not >>>>>>>> delegate to https://foo.com/. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>> "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>> "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blink component >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI >>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Motivation >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Permissions Policy specification >>>>>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines a >>>>>>>> mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and disable use >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this mechanism >>>>>>>> allows >>>>>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g., >>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for the >>>>>>>> design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that might be >>>>>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TAG review >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a >>>>>>>> transition period for older Chromium clients, where they enumerate all >>>>>>>> subdomains and include the wildcard in the permissions policy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interoperability >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gecko: Will ask >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WebKit: Will ask >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Links to signal requests? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Web developers: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab >>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, but it will be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1345994 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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