Ah, yes I responded to that comment and believe it would be possible to support that future extension without having to un-ship this version of wildcards.
~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:21 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote: > Essentially, this comment > <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454> > suggested > a negation syntax, which looks like a feature request, but may be good to > ensure that the current parsing algorithm would enable such future > extensions. > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:17 PM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> I haven't seen the notes from the meeting (don't see them here: >> https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2022/telcons), do you >> have a copy and/or can you describe the forward-compatible cases? >> >> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:38 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ari, >>> >>> There were some questions on the TAG review about potential extensions >>> to the syntax for additional use cases. Just checking: do you think the >>> current design is forward-compatible with these use cases? >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:39 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> There was one comment on the TAG thread: >>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454 >>>> >>>> Mozilla just published a positive position: >>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>> >>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that the >>>>> TAG review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd like >>>>> to wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate. >>>>> >>>>> *.foo.com does not match foo.com. >>>>> >>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The example in the description is a bit confusing found here: >>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>> >>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>> >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; " >>>>>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> >>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>> >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> >>>>>> One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>> https://*.foo.com";)` instead. As you're used `foo.com` twice! >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> Would it not be better to use `foo.com` and `example.com` instead >>>>>> e.g. >>>>>> >>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>> >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com >>>>>> <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> >>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>> >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com <https://foo.com/> >>>>>> " "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>> ``` >>>>>> >>>>>> Which would make more sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry about that: >>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula <ari...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Design Doc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This feature will add support for wildcard in permissions policy >>>>>>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) >>>>>>>>> where a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT >>>>>>>>> (e.g., >>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least eTLD+1 (a >>>>>>>>> registrable domain). This means that https://*.bar.foo.com/ works >>>>>>>>> but https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all domains to use >>>>>>>>> the feature, you should just delegate to *). Wildcards in the scheme >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> port section will be unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ does not >>>>>>>>> delegate to https://foo.com/. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>>> "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>>> "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blink component >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI >>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Motivation >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Permissions Policy specification >>>>>>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines a >>>>>>>>> mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and disable >>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this mechanism >>>>>>>>> allows >>>>>>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g., >>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for the >>>>>>>>> design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that might be >>>>>>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TAG review >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a >>>>>>>>> transition period for older Chromium clients, where they enumerate all >>>>>>>>> subdomains and include the wildcard in the permissions policy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interoperability >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gecko: Will ask >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WebKit: Will ask >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Links to signal requests? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Web developers: >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab >>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, but it will be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1345994 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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