Great. LGTM1 then! On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:26 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Ah, yes I responded to that comment and believe it would be possible to > support that future extension without having to un-ship this version of > wildcards. > > ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:21 PM Yoav Weiss <yoavwe...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Essentially, this comment >> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454> >> suggested >> a negation syntax, which looks like a feature request, but may be good to >> ensure that the current parsing algorithm would enable such future >> extensions. >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:17 PM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> I haven't seen the notes from the meeting (don't see them here: >>> https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2022/telcons), do you >>> have a copy and/or can you describe the forward-compatible cases? >>> >>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:38 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ari, >>>> >>>> There were some questions on the TAG review about potential extensions >>>> to the syntax for additional use cases. Just checking: do you think the >>>> current design is forward-compatible with these use cases? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 6:39 AM Ari Chivukula <aric...@chromium.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There was one comment on the TAG thread: >>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765#issuecomment-1245616454 >>>>> >>>>> Mozilla just published a positive position: >>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>> >>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 2:39 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We discussed this in the API OWNERS meeting today, and given that the >>>>>> TAG review issue was added to the TPAC milestone for next week, we'd like >>>>>> to wait a week or so to see if there is any useful feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/31/22 10:44 AM, Ari Chivukula wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll add a note, but this is actually deliberate. >>>>>> >>>>>> *.foo.com does not match foo.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:19 ayumi hamasaki <ayumih...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The example in the description is a bit confusing found here: >>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; " >>>>>>> https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One would think why not just write: `ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>> https://*.foo.com";)` instead. As you're used `foo.com` twice! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would it not be better to use `foo.com` and `example.com` instead >>>>>>> e.g. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self " >>>>>>> https://example.com <https://foo.com/>" "https://cdn1.foo.com"; " >>>>>>> https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: permissions-policy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://example.com <https://foo.com/> >>>>>>> " "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which would make more sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:10:31 UTC+1 ari...@chromium.org >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry about that: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/679 >>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/51 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 10:06 Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ari Chivukula <ari...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Contact emails >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ari...@chromium.org, mike...@chromium.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Design Doc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HtkQivbjO6TiP6uZdTt4KmTnWzbs5IZpEdrz59-fyYU/edit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This feature will add support for wildcard in permissions policy >>>>>>>>>> structured like SCHEME://*.HOST:PORT (e.g., https://*.foo.com/) >>>>>>>>>> where a valid Origin could be constructed from SCHEME://HOST:PORT >>>>>>>>>> (e.g., >>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This requires that HOST is at least eTLD+1 (a >>>>>>>>>> registrable domain). This means that https://*.bar.foo.com/ >>>>>>>>>> works but https://*.com/ won’t (if you want to allow all domains >>>>>>>>>> to use the feature, you should just delegate to *). Wildcards in the >>>>>>>>>> scheme >>>>>>>>>> and port section will be unsupported and https://*.foo.com/ does >>>>>>>>>> not delegate to https://foo.com/. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Before, a permissions policy might need to look like: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>>>> "https://cdn1.foo.com"; "https://cdn2.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With this feature, it could look like: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> permissions-policy: ch-ua-platform-version=(self "https://foo.com"; >>>>>>>>>> "https://*.foo.com";) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blink component >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blink>PermissionsAPI >>>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EPermissionsAPI> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Motivation >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Permissions Policy specification >>>>>>>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-permissions-policy/> “defines a >>>>>>>>>> mechanism that allows developers to selectively enable and disable >>>>>>>>>> use of >>>>>>>>>> various browser features and APIs.” One capability of this mechanism >>>>>>>>>> allows >>>>>>>>>> features to be enabled only on explicitly enumerated origins (e.g., >>>>>>>>>> https://foo.com/). This mechanism is not flexible enough for the >>>>>>>>>> design of some CDNs, which deliver content via an origin that might >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> hosted on one of several hundred possible subdomains. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TAG review >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/765 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Compatibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Depending on their user base, sites may want to entertain a >>>>>>>>>> transition period for older Chromium clients, where they enumerate >>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> subdomains and include the wildcard in the permissions policy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interoperability >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would be the first to implement if approved. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gecko: Will ask >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WebKit: Will ask >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Links to signal requests? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Web developers: >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webappsec-permissions-policy/issues/479 >>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/client-hints-infrastructure/issues/108> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Future work might flag syntax errors in the Issues tab >>>>>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lDEvj8tMeuvUs1HTTqL-44YiI-7ljeQkusM_WhUfIeE/edit> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, but it will be. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://crbug.com/1345994 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5170361717489664 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ~ Ari Chivukula (Their/There/They're) >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DLDbhOMWugyzXTKsvjH6koO8g7sV7eg_NQgq0GZeCOQ1A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2BCusaFBxLhe930f_X%2BvisYes%3DQLOBB8VFevR804kcS_A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5D%2Bqnrhs1j0YaFFHmJGCzzE2_YMW6yYe1QYX_PezNHWo2Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL%2BnwnbfHJe5gk86LPjWEK%2BrjA37Pyv6m43zA418a6LrA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL-%2BBuNvSh46_qWHeCi%3DwY4f_%2BRzA4MN73sx9hp55qBLg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAGpy5DL-%2BBuNvSh46_qWHeCi%3DwY4f_%2BRzA4MN73sx9hp55qBLg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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