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Today's topics: * What is AIDS? (was) Why I Quit HIV. - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/acef503a4cb1d717 * Reservation (part I) - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/31a7fdd54f1c8fc0 ============================================================================== TOPIC: What is AIDS? (was) Why I Quit HIV. http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/acef503a4cb1d717 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, May 3 2006 2:02 am From: Jagannath Chatterjee Dear Friends, From our childhood days we have been led to understand that germs and viruses cause disease. This theory has become so ingrained in us that any opposition to this presumption, even by recognised scientists and doctors such as the author of "Why I Quit HIV", puzzles us beyond measure. Disease is a result of going against natural laws, physical, moral or spiritual. At first the body rebels with symptoms of fever, colds, diarrhoea, dysentery,skin eruptions etc. as an attempt is made to throw the resultant toxins out enabling the body to breathe easier (this is today recognised as lymphatic drainage). But repeated meddling with these symptoms and trying to cut short the obvious discomfort by employing unnatural means (suppressive medication) makes the body ultimately give up and adjust to the new condition, thus resulting in chronic and hereditory disorders. As simple as that. Now about the mind. It is rightly said that the mind is the root cause of disease. The will to transgress natural laws, at any level, occurs in the mind. This may be due to compulsion, situation, ignorance, or mental vices like greed, jealousy etc. Thus the need for a hygenic, moral and spiritual education has been felt by every civillisation (except ours of course) so that the mind was trained to behave properly and strive to rise above animal propensities. Our non-civillisation, pepped up by technology and what prevails in the name of science, desparately sought ways and means to discredit the moral and spiritual base of disease so that the grip of religion on the society could be done away with. According to the new dispension disease definitely was not the wages of sin. There was no sin. Man, as the master of the universe, was not supposed to worry about such frivolities as sin. Fierce individual freedom and the breaking down of all shackles, even obligation to the family and social structure, is the aim that we all endorse today. The germ theory, Freud's analysis of the psyche, and Darwins theory of evolution, highlighting the base animal nature of the erstwhile spiritual man became the perfect launching pad for this new movement. However the germ theory was contested by Antoine Beauchamp, and many others after him, Freud by Carl Jung and eastern philosophers, and Darwin by the intelligent design theory and the Church. All these opposite views are routinely derided to keep the present faulty paradigms alive and kicking. The hidden fear of religion again rearing its head also nags those who blindly support the faulty theories. Now let us come to the theory of AIDS. As per discerning scientists, AIDS is a disease state (as opposed to a viral attack) of the body that is a form of tuberculosis. Tuberculosis too is a disease state, and not caused by the tubercular bacillus, which really occurs to eat away the diseased tissue acting as the scavenger. This can be easily discerned by observing a patient who is "cured" by antibiotics and other drugs. The patient really never fully recovers and remains susceptible to various illnesses. Today a large portion of the population of the globe suffers from incipient tuberculosis. The susceptibility to colds and coughs, regular coming down with flu like symptoms, inability of the body to assimilate the proper nutrition, inability to ward off common ailments, various digestive disorders resulting in chronic diarrhoea and dysentery, caries of the teeth, bone decay, anger directed towards family members, unexplainable physical weakness forcing one to try out various tonics and supplements, resorting to drugs,intoxicants, tobacco, and wandering from doctor to doctor seeking relief, a never satisfied feeling, mood swings, depression coming on in the evening hours, sluggishness and feeling unrefreshed upon getting up in the morning, inordinate desire to love and be loved, compulsion to watch pornography, being haunted by lascivious thoughts, weakness and irritation after the sexual act etc. are all symptoms of incipient tuberculosis. AIDS is tuberculosis often accentuated by suppressed veneral diseases. When this disease state is further boosted by poverty or profligate living, drug abuse etc we get the complete picture of the state. The entire immune system just collapses unable to bear the overload. What is the HIV? Frankly speaking no one knows. There is a reward for anyone who can trace and display this virus. The drawings that we see depicting this virus are artists imaginations running wild. The scientific community tries to hide its discomfiture by declaring that the virus is "elusive" and "constantly morphing". In general viruses are anything but the scary invaders they are made out to be. Genetic engineers have discovered that viruses are mechanical (and not live) entities which are carriers of genetic information. The information is encased in a protein or fat cover which disintegrates as soon as the job is over. Except for some viruses external to the system, all other viruses are vital for the body in maintaining itself. Even the "dangerous" viruses can affect the system only if the immune system is weak. The HIV theory is well on its way out as more and more doctors and scientists are questioning it, as also investigating journalists. When this theory is finally trashed there will emerge the need for a new way of healing. Today it is more than obvious that a return to a healthy lifestyle, exercise, proper nourishment, compassionate care, healthy and pollution free environment, spiritual training and a holistic system of treatment is the answer to AIDS. Not the horrendous toxins called ART that are routinely administered to the hapless patients destroying their livers, kidneys, their will to live, and ultimately their lives in the process. Let us hope that through the debunking of the HIV theory, some sort of soul searching will commence within the medical community. I do not believe that 100% of the modern medicos are profit seekers. There are many among them who sincerely wish to heal their patients. They are hampered by their training and the dangers involved in going against "popular" concepts. However the medical industry, and those who benefit from it, will vehemently oppose this move. Regards, Jagannath. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I find this quite unsettling. What is AIDS then? And what are people > curing and not curing and treating etc.? I understand that HIV is a virus; > but what exactly does this virus cause and do? "Medical mysteries" make me > uneasy. > blessings > Shan > "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ============================================================================== TOPIC: Reservation (part I) http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/31a7fdd54f1c8fc0 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Mon, May 1 2006 6:23 am From: "rupinder" okk , lemme start with the population of "obc's"/sc/st's in india.. 1)i would like to know tht whn the first time reservations were introduced ws there nething like "obc's" mentioned ever...or even existent during tht time. so how come we have obc's now. nd the %age of obc's grows every yr becos the govt. includes more nd more castes into it every yr. so its ridiculous to quote such data. aaj 52% hai toh agle saal 62% ho jayegi. u'l get reservations for these too???? then wat bout general category??? lagta hai last mein general category walon ko reservation ki zaroorat pad jayegi. 2) as for the cases against reserved category doctors, the no. of cases tht come to light are nt the only cases. just like u cannot go by the govt. records of rape cases(cos there is a huge diff b/w the reported nd the actual fig.s) u cannot simply agree to govt records jst for putting ur point. 3)same for officials taking bribe. nd if u have the data plzz show it to us. 4)coming to the billionaires data....if there are still negligible reserved category pple in there then i account it to the failure of both the mandal policy nd the reserved category pple cos they failed to make use of the opportunity that they got. 5)where d'u think the general category pple are going to go when this reservation policy comes into effect????? jab apne hi ghar mein kuch nahi mil raha toh bahar toh jayenge hi na. most of them will go out. nd uk has already proposed some lucrative offers to pple coming fr education to their country. nd u cant gauge the commintment of pple jst frm no. of pple who go out or not. moreover if the govt. wants to stop the brain drain then they should provide better opportunities here itself. 6)the obc's have come into existence only bcos of the political games tht are played on castes. at the time of independence there were no obc's as such. nd as i mentioned earlier today if obc's constitute 52 % of the population then voh govt. ki meharbani hai.kal poore desh ko obc bana dete hain. kaisa idea hai?????? fir na kisi ke liye koi reservation rahega aur na hi yeh ladai. nd plzz quote the sources of ur data too. nd thousand yrs exploitation ws not done by todays generation. todays generation is sensible enough to be humanistic nd not be discriminatory towards others. nd moreover if the system of reservation ws introduced to help these people then after 58 yrs of independence this no. should have gone down nd not increased. this shows the utter failure of the govt. nd its policies to help these people. u should be criticising them nd nt the people who are opposing reservation. u ask ur govt. to review their policies. vy has this system of reservation failed even after so many yrs???? whts the use of giving reservation to these pple in higher education institutes(specifically iit's nd iim's) when they cant cope with it. its really hard to undo the things tht they have learnt in the past. its wastage of resources at the highest level of education. today there is a preparatory course in iit's for these pple nd still many dont do well. it's best to help these people at the primary level of education(vy dont u criticese the govt for the horrible state that their primary schools are in????). the govt should improve the conditions of primary nd secondary schools so that these pple can compete with others for higher education.this will be fair enough fr all. nd if u talk bout the coaching nd all reqd. then i sppse u know tht iit's syllabus has been revamped nd most of the things are from ncert books.( vy dont u ask the govt. to provide u with better teachers at the secondary school level who can explain the concepts to the children??? the quality of teachers today is worse). i dont think coaching is tht necessary then.nd there are many pple who have cleard these examinations without ne coaching nd with good results. soo i hope u gt the msg. we are not against these people bt we want the govt. to do its duty properly towards these people by improving their level of primary education. with regardas rupinder singh ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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