The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 156 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: E21 320i intake for sale on ebay.de current Alpina - BMW relationship ? Re: OT - Religion Re: OT - Religion (some bmw content) Re: "New cars are getting too expensive to fix" taxes and political views and stuff Re: taxes and political views and stuff Re: Taxes, was "New cars are getting too expensive to fix" Engine rebuild...timing question
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:27:46 +0000 From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E21 320i intake for sale on ebay.de Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Passing on helpful info. Complete M10 E21 320i intake manifold with lines, injectors, cold start valve and throttle body. Could be REALLY handy for your older 320i or to canabalize for your L Jetronic intake for the larger diameter runners. Auction is 2474536271 on ebay.de (you should be able to get this from ebay.com). Gregory in Geneva _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:36:32 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: current Alpina - BMW relationship ? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> some time ~2 years ago I read an article about BMW buying a controlling interest in Alpina, taking them somewhat in-house, sort of like how Mercedes bought AMG several years ago. I can't seem to find anything online about it for some reason, but figure someone here recalls the details & does have a link or three. the sale of the Alpina (Z8) Roadster was the initial official branding of the marque here in the US, but they've been involved with the factory for a long time with racing support & other stuff I believe. IIRC the X5 4.6iS engine was a development of one of the Alpina E39 engines. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:23:09 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Religion Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aren't we really all pretty much like the dyslexic agnostic who doesn't know if there really is a Dog? -Phil Karl Zemlin wrote: >Plenty of our members (including me) are atheists, so aside from opinions on >social issues and social values, I put my faith in the facts and theories of >science. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:25:01 -0500 From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Religion (some bmw content) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :) Well, I've always been atheist too, but recently my family has suggested that I establish my own church, insofar as I seem to worship automobiles. This would be the Church of Yumoron, its icon a BMW sedan. The name, btw, is derived from the chant "Yu-moron!" or sometimes "Yu-f***ing-moron!" voiced repeatedly whilst dodging other cars during the religion's ritual activity (driving). Might have some tax advantages too. >From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Message-ID: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Well ... OK opinions like > >The inherent worth and dignity of every person; > >& > >Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part. > >Plenty of our members (including me) are atheists, so aside from opinions >on social issues and social values, I put my faith in the facts and >theories of science. > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar � get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:38:03 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "New cars are getting too expensive to fix" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 4/23/04 1:32 PM, "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I bet parking & navigating a Suburban in many places in Europe isn't really > a picnic either..... You've got that right. Last year we rented an apartment in Nice for a couple of weeks which had a 3 storey underground garage. My modest size Renault M�gane rental car, see <http://renault.com/gb/produits/berline4p2.htm> which was maybe slightly shorter and distinctly narrower than a domestic Taurus, had to do a 5 point turn to get around the ramps between floors. Then when I went to park it in our individual garage there was about a hair's breadth clearance on either side, and absolutely no way to open any door enough to get out. Back that car went, and I returned with a Sc�nic, <http://renault.com/gb/produits/scenic2.htm> which is a short-and-tall people mover thing, and actually quite fun to drive. Still had to do 3 point turns for the ramps. Maybe if I had become more skillful at judging the whereabouts of its invisible extremities I might have been able to make it around in one, but the visible scrapes on the walls suggested otherwise. I was just able to get it in the garage with the passenger door very close to the wall, allowing me to squeeze with some difficulty out of the barely opened driver's door. In this environment a 3 series looked ample, and a 7 series brought to mind a stranded whale. Your Suburban would have had to use the truck lane! Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:05:31 -1000 From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: taxes and political views and stuff Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i'd like to thank everyone who shared their opinion on these threads...and a big thanx to the mods who didnt lock the thread yet, and letting it go on a bit longer... my enjoyments about the digest is not only the wealth of bmw collective wisdom, but the differing views, perspectives, and opinions about anything and everything else...it's pretty nice to see a healthy brainstorming of differing ideas and opinions where adults are pretty civil and tend to respect each others opinions (for the most part anyway)... i havent had these kinds of discussions since i was in college, and it's pretty refreshing to gain new ideas and inputs...gives my empty mind something to ponder about... :) OBMWC- will be thinking about prior topics discussed on digest while driving my M3, which is patiently waiting for the new set of pilot sport 2s to appear at costco... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 19:09:40 -0400 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: taxes and political views and stuff Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jay, If you want more discussion and discourse on as many varied topics, political and other wise than you can stand, head on over to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheUUCGarage/ Bill Matthews 00 M Geeze some Volvos other cars > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay G > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] taxes and political views and stuff > > > i'd like to thank everyone who shared their opinion on these > threads...and a > big thanx to the mods who didnt lock the thread yet, and letting > it go on a > bit longer... > > my enjoyments about the digest is not only the wealth of bmw collective > wisdom, but the differing views, perspectives, and opinions about anything > and everything else...it's pretty nice to see a healthy brainstorming of > differing ideas and opinions where adults are pretty civil and tend to > respect each others opinions (for the most part anyway)... > > i havent had these kinds of discussions since i was in college, and it's > pretty refreshing to gain new ideas and inputs...gives my empty mind > something to ponder about... :) > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:23:46 -0400 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Taxes, was "New cars are getting too expensive to fix" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But given that there is far more "white collar" crime in the US than any other form, discovered or otherwise, I think that argument doesn't hold water. Most uneducated people wouldn't know how to commit a crime........ College graduates, on the other hand, seem to be very good at it. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Because paying for schools is cheaper than housing > prisoners. > > -tammer > > --- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't use schools. Why do I have to pay school tax? > > > > Brett Anderson > > KMS > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.663 / Virus Database: 426 - Release Date: 4/20/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:40:30 -0500 From: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Engine rebuild...timing question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I finally got the engine all apart last weekend now I want to put it back together. I just got the new parts yesterday. I can post some pics if anyone is interested. The question I have is how difficult is the timing of the cams? I have never done anything with vanos so I am new to this. I have read through the Bently steps and it seems pretty straight forward. One question I have in particular is do I need the special timing chain tensioner that is mentioned in the Bently? I cant remember the specific part number. Can I just use anything to hold the chain tight on install? How particular is the torque required on the special tensionser? This seems like a very important step since the amount of play in the chain will effect the overall timing when fully installed. I dont want to have too much slack so that the cams roll forward when its released. However, I have noticed that most special tools are really just simple tools that have a specific purpose, like the flywheel locking tool. Also does anyone have any specific markings I could use when reinstalling the cams? The Bently basically says to have the 1st lobes point up and towards each other. It seems that there could be a link or two difference in the chain using that method. Finally if anyone has any other insight on putting this head back together please let me know. I am a little paranoid that I am going to ram a piston into a valve. Thanks for a the posts from when I was taking it apart. Just think all this to fix a broken water pump mounting stud the right way. Oh one last question. Anything to check when reinstalling for specific wear? Obviously the things listed in the Bently but are there any parts that cause particular nastiness if unchecked? Roy Collins '96 328i in pieces on the garage floor. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages) **********
