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  Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
  Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
  Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
  Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
  Re: E-36 sedan question
  Re: M60 Coolant Usage
  <E36> MTL in Tranny
  Re: <E36> MTL in Tranny
  Re: E-36 sedan question
  Fwd: Ref. Order Invoice 351032
  Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
  Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
  E34 M50 Water Pump
  Re: E34 M50 Water Pump
  Re: E34 M50 Water Pump

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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:11:05 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I thought about that.  Not worth my time to fight the issue with BMW NA.
Now if the spouse was driving and she had both kids in the car and was
stranded on the side of the road it might be worth my time.

Marco
wonders if the two trips to redline today accelerated the radiator demise

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JKerouac
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: radiator replacement: was/: [UUC] M60 Coolant Usage


  This assumes the odo/speedo was correct to begin with, from past
threads many BMWs read faster and farther than actual.  What if there
was 1% odometer error?  Then you're still in warranty.  Worn tires or a
slightly lower tire size can give a percent difference.  If you've gone
a half size lower, such as 225/45x17 down to 245x40x17 that's 1.2%,
other common half size changes are similar.
Barry
//M3 cooled by Marco's old radiator.  Maybe that one's on borrowed time too?
Before the curse hits 'Jack, who makes and sells E36 all aluminum
radiators for a reasonable price?

Jim Bassett wrote:

>On Mon, May 9, 2005 3:37 pm, Marco Romani said:
>
>
>>Thanks guys.  Frickin radiator on the 540 broke today.  My theory is you
>>guys jinxed me ;-)  Of course it has 50,500 miles.Pretty much right on
schedule for a BMW radiator :-)
>>No more warranty :-(Well if it broke at 49,500 miles, you'd have nothing
to write about, would
>>you? :-)
>>Almost like having my own pit crew ;-)
>>Marco
>>sponsored by
>>www.rennwerks.com
>>
>>
>"Almost"? :-)
>
>Jim Bassett - nothing useful other than sarcasm
>
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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:10:02 -0400
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Because of that fact, your dealer service manager has the discretion to
allow repairs under the 50K/4yr warranty up to 6 months or 5K miles out of
those limits.  He can do this without consulting BMW.

Brett Anderson
KMS


Marco wrote
> I thought about that.  Not worth my time to fight the issue with BMW NA.
> Now if the spouse was driving and she had both kids in the car and was
> stranded on the side of the road it might be worth my time.

Barry wrote
>   This assumes the odo/speedo was correct to begin with, from past
> threads many BMWs read faster and farther than actual.  What if there
> was 1% odometer error?  Then you're still in warranty.  Worn tires or a
> slightly lower tire size can give a percent difference.  If you've gone
> a half size lower, such as 225/45x17 down to 245x40x17 that's 1.2%,
> other common half size changes are similar.




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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:48:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Marco Romani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought about that.  Not worth my time to fight the issue with BMW
> NA.

Yeah the one time I argued that whole odometer/speedometer error thing
with someone who could care less (a cop) while driving on undersized
tires (Hoosier A3S03s) I ended up getting yelled at for driving on
slicks on the street.  The next argument about DOT rating and Hoosiers
didn't get me anywhere either.  He gave me a warning on the tires but
wrote me up for speeding.  For a while there I had Brett-like feelings
towards cops.  :-)

Carlos.
(no speeding tickets since then, 3 yrs ago)
(furiously knocking on wood)


                
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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 19:27:44 -0400
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: radiator replacement: was/: M60 Coolant Usage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Zionsville Autosport, or support KMS by buying through me at the same price.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----

> //M3 cooled by Marco's old radiator.  Maybe that one's on
> borrowed time too?
> Before the curse hits 'Jack, who makes and sells E36 all aluminum
> radiators for a reasonable price?



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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:02:41 -0400
From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-36 sedan question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> My wife's 328i was bought used in pristine condition, but the jack was 
> wrapped in a towel next to the spare tire.
> This weekend, I decided to discern how the jack was supposed to be 
> mounted and saw the black plastic pad the bottom of the jack is supposed 
> to mate with but no frontal support for the jack.
> Closer examination revealed a torn edge of sheet metal towards the spare 
> tire area of the trunk extending from the fore and aft member that is 
> the inboard side of the battery tray.

Ahh...you mean "near pristine" :-)

Sorry, nothing to add.

Regards

Rich

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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:18:03 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: M60 Coolant Usage
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marco opines:


>Thanks guys.  Frickin radiator on the 540 broke today.  My theory is you
>guys jinxed me ;-)  Of course it has 50,500 miles. No more warranty :-(

We must be loosing our touch those curses are normally quicker and you
should have been 100 miles from the nearest mechanic.
sim sala bim
-Kevin


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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:30:13 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> MTL in Tranny
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It didn't rain much for most of Saturday so I used that time to replace the
tranny fluid in the M3. I used the suggested Redline MTL. Shifting is
smoother esp. in the 1st to 2nd throw and so far no balkeness in going into
first from a stop.
The soup that was drained was pretty nasty. Grey and very thin.

-Kevin


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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> MTL in Tranny
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It didn't rain much for most of Saturday so I used that time to
> replace the
> tranny fluid in the M3. I used the suggested Redline MTL. 

Actually I thought the fluid of choice of the E36 M3 crowd is Red Line
D4ATF.  I'm sure MTL is fine, heck I run mixes of MTL and MT-90 in my
E30s to quiet the rattly transmissions down.

Carlos.
1 E30
no mo' E36


                
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Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:47:17 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: E-36 sedan question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What I know so far is that it is indeed a part of the right rear frame 
rail and not available separately. That frame rail is in the hundred 
dollar category with my discount at the dealer and the metal piece would 
have to be drilled out and removed from the new frame rail and the old 
stub drilled off the car.

What I have done is located the largest buyer of E36 frame rails in the 
Baltimore region, gone by the shop and asked the shop owner to be on the 
lookout for a take off bent rail with a good bracket still attached.

Ed

Brian Ruiz wrote:

>Ed,
>
>http://presley.ucr.edu/~brian/jack_bracket.html
>
>My 95 M3 has the same problem.  The sheet metal piece
>is spot welded (AFAICT) to the fore-aft rail you
>mention.  However it is torn all the way through, and
>still attached to the slot in the plastic part 51 71 1
>977 915 (JACK FIXTURE, fig 1).  Are you planning to
>replace the whole metal bar piece, or do you know of
>small sheet metal pieces like the bracket part to
>actually be available?  And if so, how are you
>planning to remove the old piece?
>
>TIA,
>
>Brian
>
>
>
>--- Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>My wife's 328i was bought used in pristine
>>condition, but the jack was 
>>wrapped in a towel next to the spare tire.
>>
>>This weekend, I decided to discern how the jack was
>>supposed to be 
>>mounted and saw the black plastic pad the bottom of
>>the jack is supposed 
>>to mate with but no frontal support for the jack.
>>
>>Closer examination revealed a torn edge of sheet
>>metal towards the spare 
>>tire area of the trunk extending from the fore and
>>aft member that is 
>>the inboard side of the battery tray.
>>
>>I cannot find on the ETK where I could buy this
>>piece of sheet metal.  
>>Anyone can get me a part number or a digital photo
>>of this area?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Ed
>>
>  
>

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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:12:41 -0700
From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Fwd: Ref. Order Invoice 351032
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am re sending this message because it is past close of business May 
9, and I have not yet received even an acknowledgement of my request 
below. Your attention would be appreciated.

Thank you
Harvey Chao

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: May 3, 2005 4:57:35 PM PDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Ref. Order Invoice 351032
>
> Subject order arrived today.
>
> I ordered replacement A/C filters for my 2000 528i which were  your 
> P/N 135135; Product Name: Micron Carbon Filter.
> The web site picture and product name led me to believe that these 
> were the replacement for the OEM carbon filters. Upon arrival  and 
> inspection, I see that they are ordinary pleated paper(?) only without 
> the carbon filter layer.
>
> How do I return these for the combination carbon and paper filter 
> elements as the originals that came with the car?  What I received is:
>       1) not what I was led to believe it was
>       2) not what I want.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>
> Harvey
> The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
>    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn 
> it off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
>    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
> product.
>           -- Ferenc Mantfeld
>
>
Harvey
The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it 
off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
product.
           -- Ferenc Mantfeld


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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:55:22 -0400
From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marco don't you say it twice!  The cycling etc it's annoying but the
default behavior of switching to full heat at the feet level makes the
car undriveable in the summer!  I'm seriously thinking about just
pulling the fuse for it and let it R.I.P.
...but I'm hoping I can do something for <$300 to fix it.

I guess all the good engineers were working on the suspension.

Stefano
'98 M3


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Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:52:11 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I wouldn't be surprised. I recently ripped out the entire heating/ac
unit in
the race car in an effort to put it on a diet.  I was amazed at the
level of
complexity in that thing.  Lots of temp sensors, stepper motors, flaps,
cables.  And this was on a 95 which didn't have the digital controls
like
yours.

It took me nearly 4 hours to get it out, and I wasn't trying to be nice
and
not break anything.

Marco
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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:25:12 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have you just tried swapping out the control unit with a known good one?
That shouldn't take longer than 1/2 hour.  They can do some wacky things
when they go bad.  I know the one on our 540 went completey nuts and would
randomly turn on the defrost, the cycle the ac.....

BTW - where do you live - if you're not happy with your mech someone on the
list maybe able to suggest an alternate.

Marco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gaudio, Stefano
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Climate Control Headaches after replacement


Marco don't you say it twice!  The cycling etc it's annoying but the
default behavior of switching to full heat at the feet level makes the
car undriveable in the summer!  I'm seriously thinking about just
pulling the fuse for it and let it R.I.P.
...but I'm hoping I can do something for <$300 to fix it.

I guess all the good engineers were working on the suspension.

Stefano
'98 M3


In response to ------------

Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:52:11 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Climate Control Headaches after replacement
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I wouldn't be surprised. I recently ripped out the entire heating/ac
unit in
the race car in an effort to put it on a diet.  I was amazed at the
level of
complexity in that thing.  Lots of temp sensors, stepper motors, flaps,
cables.  And this was on a 95 which didn't have the digital controls
like
yours.

It took me nearly 4 hours to get it out, and I wasn't trying to be nice
and
not break anything.

Marco
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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:00:51 -0400
From: Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E34 M50 Water Pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I swapped cars with my wife today and (luckily) it overheated on me, not 
her.

I checked the records from the PO and the original pump, thermostat, and 
radiator were replaced in '99 at 59,000 miles.  The car now has 119,000 
miles so I guess it is about time.

Anyone have any tips or tricks?  32mm nut for the fan?  Do I need to 
remove the radiator or can it be done with it in place?  Anything else I 
should be aware of?  I have done a water pump on an M10 and S14 but 
never an M50.

-Steve Nash

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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E34 M50 Water Pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If the thermostat housing is plastic, replace with
aluminum.  I believe it's possible to do it with the
radiator in place, but removing the radiator is trivial and
makes life much easier.  Will save you some cuts.  I did it
on an E36 though, I don't know if clearances differ
car-to-car.

This was the first piece of car maintenance I ever did;
it's straightforward.  How hot did the car get?

-tammer

--- Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I swapped cars with my wife today and (luckily) it
> overheated on me, not 
> her.
> 
> I checked the records from the PO and the original pump,
> thermostat, and 
> radiator were replaced in '99 at 59,000 miles.  The car
> now has 119,000 
> miles so I guess it is about time.
> 
> Anyone have any tips or tricks?  32mm nut for the fan? 
> Do I need to 
> remove the radiator or can it be done with it in place? 
> Anything else I 
> should be aware of?  I have done a water pump on an M10
> and S14 but 
> never an M50.
> 
> -Steve Nash
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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:37:09 -0400
From: Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E34 M50 Water Pump
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I heard the chime telling me the coolant was getting to hot and shut it 
down and coasted to a stop on the side of the road.  The gauge was just 
below the red zone so I think it will be ok.

I guess I'll leave work early today and get the car up on the lift and 
and pull the radiator. Steve D should get the parts out today so I can 
install them tomorrow.  Just one more thing on the list.....

-Steve

Tammer Farid wrote:

> If the thermostat housing is plastic, replace with
> aluminum.  I believe it's possible to do it with the
> radiator in place, but removing the radiator is trivial and
> makes life much easier.  Will save you some cuts.  I did it
> on an E36 though, I don't know if clearances differ
> car-to-car.
> 
> This was the first piece of car maintenance I ever did;
> it's straightforward.  How hot did the car get?
> 
> -tammer
> 
> --- Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I swapped cars with my wife today and (luckily) it
>>overheated on me, not 
>>her.
>>
>>I checked the records from the PO and the original pump,
>>thermostat, and 
>>radiator were replaced in '99 at 59,000 miles.  The car
>>now has 119,000 
>>miles so I guess it is about time.
>>
>>Anyone have any tips or tricks?  32mm nut for the fan? 
>>Do I need to 
>>remove the radiator or can it be done with it in place? 
>>Anything else I 
>>should be aware of?  I have done a water pump on an M10
>>and S14 but 
>>never an M50.
>>
>>-Steve Nash

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