The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 644 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: e46 advice - and why isn't there a 330xiT? Re: e46 advice - and why isn't there a 330xiT? Re: e46 advice? Re: e46 advice? Re: e46 advice? Re: Eurethane suspension bushings Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Re: Urethane Bushings Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice <OT?>The joy of owning a BMW E36 Convertible Top Re-Synchronization Re: E36 Convertible Top Re-Synchronization AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:15:46 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rmplum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e46 advice - and why isn't there a 330xiT? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sure, AWD and snow tires is the best. But AWD only helps one go, not stop or turn, and its the inability to stop and turn which causes crashes. My experience with snow tire equipped RWD BMW Tourings is they can go through unplowed snow, up to a few inches deeper than the ground clearance. To be continued in December... Gary Derian > On 5/4/05, Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why do you need AWD? 4 snow tires with RWD are better than all season >> tires >> and AWD. >> >> Gary Derian > > To this I would add that AWD + snow tires = an insane amount of fun in > the white stuff. > > Ryan > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], rmplum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: e46 advice - and why isn't there a 330xiT? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My experience with snow tire equipped RWD BMW > Tourings is they can go > through unplowed snow, up to a few inches deeper > than the ground clearance. > > To be continued in December... My experience with FWD in Central WI heavy snowstorm was that the front will plow til front axle was lift off the ground. Will Get Firefox! Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:10:32 -0400 From: "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e46 advice? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And yeah, the new 530xiT Is that like when you get out of a 530? <g> KC Boyce '97 M3/4 E30 Eta Page: http://www.e30eta.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:17:13 -0400 From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e46 advice? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> And yeah, the new 530xiT That's funny. I just sold a 6 cyl. RWD 530iT. Never thought about doing the all wheel drive upgrade though... ;-) Eric-->now cruisin' in a very fancy Nissan. Side note, go to www.nissan.com for an interesting legal battle. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:50:27 +0000 From: "Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: e46 advice? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Andy wrote: >Do the stock e46 cars run on 87 octane or premium? What's the real world >highway mileage? The factory specifies 91 octane, but my '99 323i sedan ran OK on 87. I could tell absolutely no difference between the two octanes. That said, I _usually_ ran 89 octane on the street, and always 91 on the few track days the car saw. I got 30+ mpg on the highway, 20 or so in the city, regardless of octane. HTH, Evan _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:46:40 -0700 From: "RussC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Eurethane suspension bushings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, I agree, but the reality and "whats right" don't match up here. See more below... > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Eurethane suspension bushings > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I was an E28 owner long enough to learn, several times, that it's "false > economy" to replace one part at a time. I would hope that's public > knowledge by now. That, plus the fact that they are driving > BMWs, gives me > little sympathy for the "I can't afford to do proper maintenance" > sob story. > If someone can't afford to maintain an E28, a newer Toyota at the same > initial cost will be cheaper to maintain. Yup, and I have fallen into this trap also. But I haven't gone to poly either. I'm in the process of replacing everything. Again, I'm just stating what I see and hear, not whats proper. > > Ploy bushings aren't cheaper than OE, so I'm not sure how that helps. Yea, but if your falsely thinking it will "last longer", I can see how this step is can be taken. > > The video that Brett posted was _my_ E34. I did not have any significant > shimmy, just a hint one time which I thought might have been brakes. > However, I was having all sorts of other symptoms and it didn't click that > the bushings could be the problem. So you trade shimmy for > clunking and odd > handling traits. I'm going back to OE for those bushings and staying with > them. Me too, as I'm getting all the tie rods, sterring arm and lower control arm to finish the entire front end. RussC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RussC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] Eurethane suspension bushings > > > > Hi Rob, > > Long time since we chatted, good to hear from you... > > > > While I agree with your statements, the reality is that most > E28 owners(me > > included) are a pretty cheap bunch. So when the shimmy > arrises, we try to > > replace parts one at a time. While this is not optimal, it's > the reality. > > Then, by the time all the compents are replaced, the upper arms are bad > > again! I've done this myself, but have resisted the temptation of poly > > bushings to date. So then, just to fix the problem with out > throwing the > > kichen sink at it, they step onto the poly stuff, and from my > communication > > with the E28 poly users, hold up and cure for a longer term front end > > shimmy. > > > > See, this is why we miss your presence in the E28 community, it's almost > > universaly not known that the E34 ///M5 bushing is better than the E32(I > > didn't know). I'll get the work out as best I can, > > > > Thanks, > > RussC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:46:47 -0400 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which is why I was pretty skeptical about the Performance Package 330i having a different motor than the standard 330i. That would have to be a different "unit". I guess the 6-speed alone would have kicked it over. That would appear to be a tough one to justify, too. At 1:43 PM -0400 5/4/05, Gary Derian wrote: >The engine, trans, catalyst, controls, gear ratio are all certified >as a unit for emissions, economy, emissions durability and more. >Once certified, it can go into a lighter vehicle with no additional >emissions, economy, emissions durability, etc. tests. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:56:24 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phil Marx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The EPA has a list of things that cause an engine to fall in a different family. Spark tuning and cat-back exhaust are things that can improve power yet not trigger a new round of tests. Gary Derian > Which is why I was pretty skeptical about the Performance Package 330i > having a different motor than the standard 330i. That would have to be a > different "unit". I guess the 6-speed alone would have kicked it over. > That would appear to be a tough one to justify, too. > > At 1:43 PM -0400 5/4/05, Gary Derian wrote: >>The engine, trans, catalyst, controls, gear ratio are all certified as a >>unit for emissions, economy, emissions durability and more. Once >>certified, it can go into a lighter vehicle with no additional emissions, >>economy, emissions durability, etc. tests. > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:57:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 4 May 2005, Gary Derian wrote: > The EPA has a list of things that cause an engine to fall in a different > family. Spark tuning and cat-back exhaust are things that can improve power > yet not trigger a new round of tests. The ZHP (performance package) has different cams, a lighter flywheel and new software. I don't think anything else in the engine is different. Would the cams change the testing reqs? And how would one police the software? Eg. a nice, green mode for testing, and an easily accessible nasty mode for high performance. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:50:10 -0700 From: "RussC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Urethane Bushings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Neil, Good info, I'll pass that on. RussC > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:56:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Urethane Bushings. > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Russ: > > The E32 750 bushings are tuned, IIRC. What this means > is that at the tuned frequency (55mph-generated, more > than likely) they are quite good. Not so much > elsewhere. The M5 bushings isn't tuned to the same > extent, but harder (as per Gary Derian's report > earlier) so they hold the wheels in place better > during cornering loads (static-ish) as opposed to the > dynamic/cyclical loading of a shimmy. > > Each is good at a different thing. For a > well-reconditioned suspension, the M5 bushing is the > way to go. For shimmy-suppression, the 750 bushings > may be better. > > The M5 bushings is more durable. > > Neil Deshpande > 92 M5 - M5, then 750, now M5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:10:53 -0700 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: No big motor tourings was E46 advice Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had heard that it was around $1 million as well. A number of years ago I was told that was the reason the (e30) 91 318i/318is and 91-92 318ic were not available in the States with an auto tranny. Not that anyone in their right mind would want to. As it is, their dual-mass flywheel already does a good job keeping their performance bottled up. -Mark Gold 1991 Lagunengr�n 318ic On May 4, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Phil Marx wrote: > That must not be a requirement any more or how could they justify > the short-wheelbase 760i? (34 of those puppies sold in the first > quarter '05, divide that into a million bucks.) > > -Phil > > Gilbert Hoffman wrote: > >> AFAIK it cost about $1M for the certification of each driveline/ >> body style. >> That means they would most likely only offer a 330xiT with >> automatic. As the >> demand won't be met for the manual. >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 22:55:37 +0000 From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <OT?>The joy of owning a BMW Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I recently received an email from my parents who went to the dentist. They explained that he recently purchased a new car. Turned in the C-class for a new 5er. Apparently on my talking about my (328i) he decided to give it a shot. He says it is the best car he ever owned. Gilbert 'preaching and converting' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:11:00 -0500 From: "Steve & Barb Conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: E36 Convertible Top Re-Synchronization Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I inadvertantly pulled the release lever for the convertible top motor in my 94 E36, which is what you have to do if you have a motor failure or other electrical malfunction. Even Bentley states: "Resetting procedures for convertible top synchronization after emergency closure are beyond the scope of this manual." Does anyone out there know how to do this? Thanks. Steve Conner Kokomo, IN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:59:24 -0400 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 Convertible Top Re-Synchronization Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Drop the top into the storage compartment, close the lid and have someone hold it down tight while you open the trunk and re-engage the motors. (convertible top cover has to be fully down before the trunk will open) With motors engaged, turn the ignition on, press and hold the roof switch in the CLOSE position. The storage lid should suck down to the fully closed position, then the roof closing sequence will begin. At this point, the top is synchronized and you are all set. Not sure why it's not in the Bentley. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I inadvertantly pulled the release lever for the convertible top motor > in my 94 E36, which is what you have to do if you have a motor failure > or other electrical malfunction. Even Bentley states: "Resetting > procedures for convertible top synchronization after emergency closure > are beyond the scope of this manual." Does anyone out there know how to > do this? Thanks. > > Steve Conner > Kokomo, IN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:09:28 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[email protected]> Subject: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary Derian wrote: > Why do you need AWD? 4 snow tires with RWD are better than all > season tires and AWD. I've been reading various automotive on line e-mail lists and message boards for over 10 years and I bet I've read over a hundred posts like Gary's stating that 4 snow tires with RWD (or FWD) is better than all season tires and AWD. I'm wondering if anyone that has actually done a side by side comparison will still come out and say that snow tires and RWD is better than all season tires and AWD in the snow. I have never done a "side by side" comparison but did get a chance to drive my old Toyota 4x4 (with the hubs unlocked) in RWD with snow tires and it did not have as much traction as it did the day before in 4WD with (worn) all season tires (it was amazing in 4WD with the snow tires on all four wheels). It does not snow in San Francisco but I make it up to Tahoe quite a bit in the winter and with the exception of 2WD vehicles with "studded" snow tires on ice I have never experienced any 2WD vehicle that will perform as well in the snow as my AWD Range Rover with all season tires. Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 P.S. I was working at the Hillsborough Concours last weekend and posted some photos of a super nice fresly restored 1939 BMW 328 that the owner towed from Idaho for the show (and a couple nice Aston Martin Zagatos) at the link below: http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=505890884203 ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
