The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 648 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Looking at a '98 540i 6 speed Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Re: M-coupe or Cooper S? Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Re: OT - Dune (was Re: E34 Touring questions) Re: OT - Dune (was Re: E34 Touring questions) <E34> Water pump/alternator ribbed belt tension Re: Tweaked E46's Re: M-coupe or Cooper S? e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Re: e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Re: e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:34:18 -0500 From: "Ivan Demkovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking at a '98 540i 6 speed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All 6 speed - has sport lowered suspension. Not sure about 98' seats and steering wheel. Problem areas: http://540i6.com/probsfixes.html Hope it helps. >From: Mike Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [UUC] Looking at a '98 540i 6 speed >Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:26:31 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi group, > >I'm considering a '98 540i 6 speed (~65K miles) to >replace my aged 535i. I have a couple of questions: > >Are all 6 speeds for that year the sport model? What >are the differences if not? > >What are the trouble areas in this model? > >Thanks > >Mike Fox > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail Mobile >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 16:24:59 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let's also not forget the benefit of fitting narrower tires as well. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not if you're talking about an ass-engined 911. -tammer <--not adding much --- Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From having driven in snow with and without snow tires > and with FWD (maybe > 70-80% of the weight over the driving and steering > wheels) and RWD (even a 50-50 BMW) and now AWD I can tell > you I would take > FWD with snows over RWD with snows in the > traction (to move the car forward) department. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 18:51:09 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M-coupe or Cooper S? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 5/5/05 5:30 PM, Carlos Lopez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd have to agree with Karl. I've autoxed both of Ben's cars (well his > wife's Cooper S) Does she know about this? <g> > and his M Coupe. No doubt about it I wouldn't even > think about the Cooper S. But is John going to autocross his new ride? Does he autocross the Land Rover? For everyday driving the MCS is faster than 95+% of other cars, light and tossable and has pin-sharp handling. It also doesn't have the M Coupe's tendency for the rear to overtake the front... > Of course one of my biggest complaints was > that it didn't have a LSD and now they do. D'oh! You bet, and it's good! > M Coupe, M Coupe, M Coupe. Depends on what you've had, what you want, and of course what you've already got. The M Coupe, even though I like it, wasn't even on my horizon. But then I have the M3 for that kind of thing. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:53:21 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FWD cars have 60 to 64% front weight. BMW sedans about 50/50, Tourings 52% or so rear weight. Weight in the front seats is applied about 55% front, 45% rear. Rear seat weight is applied about 85% rear. Trunk weight is applied 115% rear, -15% front. Acceleration at 0.1g moves weight about 2% to the rear. Climbing a grade moves weight 2 to 5% rear. Choose your conditions and see where you end up. Once the rear starts sliding on a FWD car, it is all over. In a RWD car, there are many hints and warnings that there is a potential traction problem at the rear. Pay your money and make your choice. Gary Derian > In THEIR tests that reported AWD with all season best, then FWD with > snows, then FWD with all seasons - they didn't test > RWD at all. So I don't know if RWD w/snows would place ahead of FWD with > all season tires or not - IN THEIR TESTS. > > From having driven in snow with and without snow tires and with FWD (maybe > 70-80% of the weight over the driving and steering > wheels) and RWD (even a 50-50 BMW) and now AWD I can tell you I would take > FWD with snows over RWD with snows in the > traction (to move the car forward) department. RWD is quite a bit more > fun, however :-) > > You can put snow tires on a RWD pickup with nothing in the back and you > aren't going anywhere. Much as I hate driving a FWD > car they ARE good in the snow - with or without snow tires. > > Dennis > 01 M5 silver/black (for sale) > > > > At 01:39 PM 05/05/2005 -0700, Richard Dorffer wrote: >>Dennis, >> >>You didn't address my question what so ever. You posted that "..they >>found that AWD with all >>season tires was better than FWD with snows. So I would assume the fall >>off to RWD with snows >>would be more so." >> >>So, the way I read that is that you said AWD with all season is best, FWD >>with snows second, and >>RWD with snows third. >> >>I simply don't agree necessarily that there would be a "fall off" of the >>RWD with snows from FWD >>with snows as you stated. >> >>--- Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > At 07:10 AM 05/05/2005 -0700, Richard Dorffer wrote: >> > >--- Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > I will paste a snippet of what consumer reports tested on this >> > > > subject. >> > > > They found that AWD with all season tires was better than >> > > > FWD with snows. So I would assume the fall off to RWD with snows >> would be >> > > > more so. >> > > >> > >Really? Why? >> > >> > >> > All the snow tires I have used have tons more tread depth than all >> > season >> > tires. More depth normally means more snow >> > grip so you have more to work with. By taking off the snows except >> > during >> > the heart of winter one set can last for years. >> >>That is what I do, but what does this have to do with my question as to >>your comment that RWD with >>snows would "fall off" from FWD with snows? >> >> > I would agree that if you are buying a new car and have the choice of >> > paying a good bit more for AWD that for a lot of areas of the >> > country you could get snow tires for less and be OK. Snow tires and >> > cheap >> > steel wheels (for most cars) and pretty cheap and >> > no good reason you can't have both AWD and snows. For bang for the >> > buck, >> > snow tires on spare rims would be my choice over >> > JUST AWD. >> >>Personally, I would rather have the best tires for dry/wet for six seasons >>and cold/snow for the >>other six seasons like I do now. >> >> > Like I said all seasons tires do nothing well - less grip in wet and >> > dry >> > than summer tread tires and less grip >> > on snow and ice than snow tires - so I don't run them on my cars. >> >>Me either. >> >>Regards, >> >>Rich >> >>95 M3 - shod with Michelin PS2s or Toyo RA1 >>90 325is - shod with new Michelin PE2s soon >>91 318is - running off crappy Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 but run Nokian Hakka >>Qs in the winter on >>dedicated wheels.... >>'00 Accord - Michelin all-seasons in the summer, Nokian Hakka Q for winter >>on dedicated wheels > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:07:02 +0000 From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary wrote: >FWD cars have 60 to 64% front weight. BMW sedans about 50/50, Tourings 52% >or so rear weight. > >Weight in the front seats is applied about 55% front, 45% rear. Rear seat >weight is applied about 85% rear. Trunk weight is applied 115% rear, -15% >front. > >Acceleration at 0.1g moves weight about 2% to the rear. Climbing a grade >moves weight 2 to 5% rear. Choose your conditions and see where you end >up. > >Once the rear starts sliding on a FWD car, it is all over. In a RWD car, >there are many hints and warnings that there is a potential traction >problem at the rear. > >Pay your money and make your choice. So who's writing the Java for this? All hail Gary. Gilbert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:59:54 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andrew Harkonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUCDigest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT - Dune (was Re: E34 Touring questions) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Very cool. Gary Derian > Going way OT here but since you guys brought it up.... My uncle - once > removed, used to work with Scott Herbert, author of Dune, (I have yet to > read the book BTW) at the National plywood association up in the Pacific > northwest on a one year job assignment. Herbert stole the name from my > uncle and used it in his books. The only difference being he added an > extra > "n". My aunt, has a letter from Herbert documenting all this. > > Thanks for all the help with the Touring questions. > > Andrew Harkonen > '89 535i 5spd > '93 525iT (spice wagon) > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 50 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:34:19 -0700 From: Jim Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OT - Dune (was Re: E34 Touring questions) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree, very cool, but it was Frank Herbert that wrote the original Dune series not Scott. Jim Gary Derian wrote: > Very cool. > Gary Derian > >> Going way OT here but since you guys brought it up.... My uncle - once >> removed, used to work with Scott Herbert, author of Dune, (I have yet to >> read the book BTW) at the National plywood association up in the Pacific >> northwest on a one year job assignment. Herbert stole the name from my >> uncle and used it in his books. The only difference being he added >> an extra >> "n". My aunt, has a letter from Herbert documenting all this. >> >> Thanks for all the help with the Touring questions. >> >> Andrew Harkonen >> '89 535i 5spd >> '93 525iT (spice wagon) >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 50 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! >> >> >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW >> CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 21:49:36 -0400 From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E34> Water pump/alternator ribbed belt tension Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've got a question about belt tension on my '95 540i. When I bought it a year and a half ago it had a loose, squealing power steering/alternator belt. You know, the kind that squeals like crazy when you back out of the driveway and turn to go down the street, The belt was obviously toast - cracked and splitting - so I figured a new one would fix me right up. Along with a bunch of other 'initial ownership' stuff I had the belts replaced (this was before I knew enough to do my own work) at the dealer. That didn't help - I could still deflect the belt two inches by hand. So, I replaced the tensioner with a new one (doing my own work by then). The old and new one seemed pretty much the same out of the car and new one didn't improve things. I spun the plastic? idler/tensioner pulleys by hand when out and they seemed fine - smooth and no apparent bearing issues. What else should I check? The only things I can think of are the belt is too long or one or both of the pulleys shrunk. Do they wear down? I've thought maybe I should replace the pulleys but there doesn't appear to be anything amiss with current ones - and they're kinda pricey to just try out. It's possible maybe the p/s pump/alternator/water pump is making the noise? Maybe the seriously slack-seeming belt is throwing me off the real problem? Thanks for any pointers, Marty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:39:00 -0700 From: "Peter Guagenti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Tweaked E46's Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I loved my PP, for the most part. The lack of a limited slip eventually wore on me, and the suspension really was still too soft, but overall it was a good package. Then it turned lemon, along with almost every other PP I have heard of. The car shook like a wet dog and would stall at idle. It had more shake and shimmie than my IPM3 with your 8lb flywheel! After about 8-10 trips to the dealer, suffering through horrible treatment by both the dealership staff and by BMWNA, I finally had to hire a lawyer to get it straightened out. It soured me on BMW to the point where I vowed to never buy new again and to never give the dealer another dime. Helluva way to treat a chapter board member and active volunteer, hunh? Anyone else would've never even consider the marque again. That said, the S52 is such a great dual-purpose motor, you have to love it. The dual-vanos 3.0 is sweet, but the ultimate power potential and great tuning base of the E36M3 makes it a great choice. Not too dissimilar to the M50's in E46 chassis's some of the WC teams ran around '00. The S52 begs to be put in other cars; the E30, Bill's Bav, E34's, and the E46. Being that you can find a 99 M3 motor and a 99 E46 chassis, you should theoretically be able to get it past smog. There is an allowance for same-year motor swaps (that's how Ralph has a legal E46M3 touring), but all of the smog equipment must be intact. It's a gamble to know whether you will be able to get it past a referee given the vaguely documented rules. It would be so much cheaper and easier if you could simply focus on dropping in an OBD1 3.2l and not have to mate up all of the electronics, if only you didn't have CARB. Still may be a worthwhile project. I will probably drop my old 3.0l in my 88 M3. That'll give me some experience with the referee and will help me understand if I'd even consider tackling the E46. -peter*g ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:00:28 -0400 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M-coupe or Cooper S? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:07 PM 5/5/2005, John Stoj wrote: >OK folks, time for some more opinions please. I love my M coupe, to the point of having no intention of ever selling it. Whether it's what you're looking for, I can't say. For me, it is stunningly fun to drive, as well as rare and beautiful. As for weaknesses, it is essentially an E36 M3 with E30 rear suspension and Z3 body, so it shares the well-documented weaknesses of the E36 M3, and the becoming-more-well-known subframe-tearing issues of the Z3. I like the M coupe so much that I don't care about its weaknesses - they're well-known enough that I will expect and deal with them when they occur. The most salient fact about the M coupe is that it is simply a flat hoot to drive - whether commuting to work, going out for pizza, carving country lanes or autocrossing, it makes every drive an event which makes one glad to be alive and a driver in the present day. I'm not trying to justify my siginifcant outlay for this expensive toy, I really feel this way about the car. Anyone who doesn't enjoy an M coupe might wish to check their pulse. Hope this helps somehow. Mine's not for sale. Dave Meyer 99 M coupe, silver/black Stafford VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:42:18 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On a scale from 1 to 10 - where 1 is easy - 10 is a royal PITA, how tough is it to replace the gas springs on the glass hatch of an E34 touring. It almost looks like they're just tucked back in them holes so releasing the pin on the latch would be extent of the task. I'm getting tired of holding the glass up with my head. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:32:07 -0400 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the hardest, it's a 15. Unless you have the tool, then it's a 0.2 They are not just stuffed into your roof, they are attached to a ball pin. There is a factory tool that you insert over the strut, and twist to release. You insert the new strut into the tool, slide the tool into the roof up until the mark on the tool, which precisely aligns the strut ball socket with the ball pin, and twist. Bingo. Done. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > On a scale from 1 to 10 - where 1 is easy - 10 is a royal PITA, > how tough is > it to replace the gas springs on the glass hatch of an E34 touring. It > almost looks like they're just tucked back in them holes so releasing the > pin on the latch would be extent of the task. > > I'm getting tired of holding the glass up with my head. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:42:33 -0500 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: e34 Touring Glass Hatch Lift R&R Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the hardest, it's a 15. Unless you have the tool, then it's a 0.2" I'll interpret that as "pay the pros" Thanks, Brett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:06:14 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AWD vs. RWD and Snow Tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dennis said > > In THEIR tests that reported AWD with all season best, then FWD > with snows, > then FWD with all seasons - they didn't test > RWD at all. So I don't know if RWD w/snows would place ahead of FWD with > all season tires or not - IN THEIR TESTS. I understand what they tested from reading the CR snippet. What I didn't understand is why you thought RWD with snows would be worse than FWD with snows and you didn't seem to comment to my question when I first posted it. I disagree, I don't believe a FWD car has an overall advantage in snow with similar tires. I get to regularly drive my wife's 2000 Honda Accord with Nokian Hakka Qs and my 1991 318is with Nokian Hakka Qs and I would prefer my car every time. Don't get me wrong, her car does very well and works well for her, but I still prefer the control of a RWD vehicle and I guess I am a bit surprised you don't considering your fleet of vehicles and track skills. The only difference is that her tires are 10mm wider than mine, but hers also have more tread depth (she is very easy on tires) so they should have the advantage. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
