Ahh no! My apologies - I have just carefully read your email. Does seem to be a steam boiler issue.
Embarrased! Graeme. On 03/02/2012, at 5:27 PM, Graeme Burton wrote: > I would suspect the brew element solid state relay is sticking on. I guess > another possibility is that the output relay in the PID controller is > sticking. Is the PID actually calling for heat when it passes the set point? > The PID display has a dot that lights up when it is calling for heat. > > I am assuming you are referring to the brew boiler as that is the one whose > temperature is indicated on the PID. If it were a steam boiler problem then > you would have a) high pressure indicated on the steam guage and b) most > likely steam being released from the safety valve. Or am I missing something > in your description of events? > > I should add that I used to fix the commercial versions of these Expobars > (and others - Synesso, LM) which are are virtually identical to the domestic > machines in many respects. > > Graeme > > > On 03/02/2012, at 11:55 AM, Judge wrote: > >> It kept climbing, and I shut it down when it hit about 235f. They >> have no idea having changed both items. If I ever find out from them >> I will let you know. >> >> On Feb 2, 1:57 pm, Dennis Keating <[email protected]> wrote: >>> thats interesting - did it heat the front boiler to 245 deg ? - mine did >>> that once lately and i would like to know what to suspect - Dennis >>> >>> On 2/1/2012 3:27 PM, Judge wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Well as promised an update. >>> >>>> I changed the processor and pressure stat. Sent to me by ZCafe one at >>>> a time as requested by phone. After doing so front boiler still just >>>> climbed without shutting off. End result is ZCafe is sending me a new >>>> machine. An I mean right away not even waiting for the return of the >>>> old one. >>> >>>> With service like that what can I say? Any Canadians looking for >>>> equipment I would definitely look at ZCafe. >>> >>>> Good luck all, and enjoy reading all posts here thank you all. >>> >>>> John >>> >>>> On Jan 25, 9:46 am, "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> John, >>> >>>>> Sounds like a positive outcome and experience. I have dealt with Zcafe >>>>> for minor service issues, and found them to be very good. Good luck >>>>> with the repair. >>> >>>>> Pete >>> >>>>> On Jan 25, 5:57 am, John Gibbon<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Well, my dealer is now sending me a new hose, pressurestat and computer. >>>>>> I >>>>>> actually like this instead of sending the machine. If it does not fix it >>>>>> will be shipping. He says the heater element will be fine, but is adding >>>>>> another year to the warranty just in case. >>>>>> John >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Dennis >>>>>> Keating<[email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> not a word but luckilyit hasnt reoccured - so far our vendor has never >>>>>>> responded to my question rather new buyers instead >>>>>>> On 1/18/2012 9:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> Any news on your Brewtus situation and how the vendor dealt with the >>>>>>> issue? >>>>>>> - Pete >>>>>>> On Jan 13, 8:53 am, Dennis Keating<[email protected]> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> i own a B1 w the factory pid upgrade and rotary pump/main line feed. >>>>>>> last week i arose to brew my morning coffee to see my pid was also >>>>>>> reading 245 or so. i could barely operate the brew lever the water was >>>>>>> so hot. my machine is on a timer, and works flawlessly every morn. my >>>>>>> steam boiler was not over pressured, tho. i think after flushing down >>>>>>> the temp somewhat, i left the machine off to completely cool down. >>>>>>> later on, the thing worked okay, and has since then. BUT, what is going >>>>>>> on, TODD? -Dennis >>>>>>> On 1/13/2012 5:04 AM, Judge wrote: >>>>>>> My letter sent to retailer. I will let you know how it all turns out >>>>>>> and just who the retailer is soon. >>>>>>> " Hello, >>>>>>> This morning I was woken to a frightful bang as my Expobar IV tank >>>>>>> over-pressured. I came down stairs to it venting. All the cups on the >>>>>>> top of the machine had been blown off so I imagine the tank ruptured. >>>>>>> It was leaking water everywhere, had a strong smell of burning and >>>>>>> showed a pressure of over 2 bars on the boiler (upper gauge, and it >>>>>>> had been venting a few minutes). Should be noted steam in the gauge. I >>>>>>> shut it down, opened the hot water tap to relieve pressure. After >>>>>>> doing so I turned it back on noted that the PID showed a temperature >>>>>>> of 245 F (I keep it at 202 F) and it started to leak as soon as the >>>>>>> pump began to fill the tank. >>>>>>> I figure as the machine is new I am best not even opening it and start >>>>>>> poking around, and messing with the warranty. I do have the original >>>>>>> box as stated in your red carpet warranty. >>>>>>> Awaiting your response as to how we may deal with this clearly >>>>>>> defective machine. A real shock as I have woken to expecting a perfect >>>>>>> cup of espresso every morning now. >>>>>>> All the best >>>>>>> John. 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