Will check it out Benjamin On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess I'd check at the inputs to the boiler--if there's current there, and > no heat, then my thought is that the element is bad. > Kitt? > > b > > Sent from my apple IIe > > On Aug 23, 2014, at 13:06, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> So I swapped a new PID in place of the old one and the brew boilder is >> still not heating up. >> Temp is displaying correctly and the dot is lighting up to indicate it >> should be heating up the boiler but no change in temp. >> >> Obviously there is a problem somewhere else. What can I check to try >> and problem solve this, any suggestions? >> >> I do have a multimeter. >> >> JohnB >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Michael Endacott >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I've got wiring diagrams for the pid upgrade from WLL, I used them to >>> understand the wiring but it's pretty simple stuff. >>> >>> the thing that confuses me is I thought all Gicar pids have to use the >>> external SSR to control the boilers due to the amp requirement? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22 August 2014 15:08, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Michael >>>> >>>> what a coincidence, I have one of those on order from eBay already as >>>> I am building a sous-vide cooker for home using it :-) >>>> >>>> The one they gave me however is a 90-240AC input voltage, so I am >>>> assuming that they connected it to the PID instead of the element >>>> connection somehow. Just not sure exactly how to do it and don't want >>>> to blow things up messing with the 220V if I don't know what I am >>>> doing. >>>> >>>> JohnB >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Michael Endacott >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> This is the one I bought when I upgraded to Gicar PID and SSR >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400380577295?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT >>>>> >>>>> Key spec is >>>>> >>>>> Items: Solid State Relay >>>>> >>>>> Model: SSR-25 AA >>>>> >>>>> Input voltage: 80-250VAC >>>>> >>>>> Output voltage: 24-380VAC >>>>> >>>>> Output current: 25A >>>>> >>>>> Working voltage: 250V >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22 August 2014 12:54, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> They gave me a Crouzet SSR, I believe this is the one that is supplied >>>>>> by WLL as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have the WLL installation sheet? >>>>>> >>>>>> JohnB >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM, John Brinkman >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Interesting, I went to the suppliers to pick up a replacment Gicar >>>>>>> PID >>>>>>> and they advised that I install an external SSR as well to take over >>>>>>> from the one in the PID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately non of their techies were there so not sure exactly how >>>>>>> to install it. Also trying to work out if I can just desolder the >>>>>>> faulty SSR on the existing one and wire in the new one for that (much >>>>>>> bigger than the small existing chip) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JohnB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:33 AM, John Brinkman >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Ahhh, will take it apart and have a look Graeme. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JohnB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Graeme Burton >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi John, I think all b3 came with an external ssr in Australia. >>>>>>>>> You >>>>>>>>> may be able to replace the relay in the PID if you can find one >>>>>>>>> that matches >>>>>>>>> the pcb holes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Graeme >>>>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>>>> From: John Brinkman >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 22 August 2014 01:21 >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Reply To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Suspected Brew Group Boiler Element >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think you are right Graeme, any way to fix a faulty relay in the >>>>>>>>> PID >>>>>>>>> or must I just replace? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I spoke to the local agent they said that they are installing >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> external SSR on the PID's as they have had quite a lot of them >>>>>>>>> failing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JohnB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Graeme Burton >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Sounds more like a u/s solid state relay - sticking off and on? >>>>>>>>>> Could >>>>>>>>>> also be the relay in the pid controller sticking. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Graeme >>>>>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>>>>> From: John Brinkman >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 22:26 >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Reply To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Suspected Brew Group Boiler Element >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a Brewtus III PID with a rotary pump/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Woke up this morning to my brew group boiler showing 99C, started >>>>>>>>>> pulling a shot to check and was flash steaming as the water came >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> so suspect the reading was correct (set temp is 90c). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pulled some water through it for about 60 seconds and the temp >>>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>>> dropping. I switched my machine off left it for about 30 minutes >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> switched it on again. Steam pressure came up and the light for the >>>>>>>>>> steam boiler went of, brew temp was sitting at 70c and the light >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the PID was indicating that it was powering the brew element but >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> is no rise in temp. I switched the machine off altogether and left >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> the whole day, brew temp has dropped down to 30c when I switch it >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> and does not rise at all. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would I be correct in assuming that this is probably a faulty brew >>>>>>>>>> group element? >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I should heck before dismantelling? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks JohnB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/brewtus. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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