I've got wiring diagrams for the pid upgrade from WLL, I used them to
understand the wiring but it's pretty simple stuff.

the thing that confuses me is I thought all Gicar pids have to use the
external SSR to control the boilers due to the amp requirement?




On 22 August 2014 15:08, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Michael
>
> what a coincidence, I have one of those on order from eBay already as
> I am building a sous-vide cooker for home using it :-)
>
> The one they gave me however is a 90-240AC input voltage, so I am
> assuming that they connected it to the PID instead of the element
> connection somehow. Just not sure exactly how to do it and don't want
> to blow things up messing with the 220V if I don't know what I am
> doing.
>
> JohnB
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Michael Endacott
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This is the one I bought when I upgraded to Gicar PID and SSR
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400380577295?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
> >
> > Key spec is
> >
> > Items: Solid State Relay
> >
> > Model: SSR-25 AA
> >
> > Input voltage: 80-250VAC
> >
> > Output voltage: 24-380VAC
> >
> > Output current: 25A
> >
> > Working voltage: 250V
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 August 2014 12:54, John Brinkman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> They gave me a Crouzet SSR, I believe this is the one that is supplied
> >> by WLL as well.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have the WLL installation sheet?
> >>
> >> JohnB
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM, John Brinkman <[email protected]
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Interesting, I went to the suppliers to pick up a replacment Gicar PID
> >> > and they advised that I install an external SSR as well to take over
> >> > from the one in the PID.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately non of their techies were there so not sure exactly how
> >> > to install it. Also trying to work out if I can just desolder the
> >> > faulty SSR on the existing one and wire in the new one for that (much
> >> > bigger than the small existing chip)
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> >
> >> > JohnB
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 8:33 AM, John Brinkman <
> [email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Ahhh, will take it apart and have a look Graeme.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the suggestion.
> >> >>
> >> >> JohnB
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Graeme Burton <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi John, I think all b3 came with an external ssr‎ in Australia. You
> >> >>> may be able to replace the relay in the PID if you can find one
> that matches
> >> >>> the pcb holes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Graeme
> >> >>>   Original Message
> >> >>> From: John Brinkman
> >> >>> Sent: Friday, 22 August 2014 01:21
> >> >>> To: [email protected]
> >> >>> Reply To: [email protected]
> >> >>> Subject: Re: Suspected Brew Group Boiler Element
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think you are right Graeme, any way to fix a faulty relay in the
> PID
> >> >>> or must I just replace?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When I spoke to the local agent they said that they are installing
> an
> >> >>> external SSR on the PID's as they have had quite a lot of them
> >> >>> failing.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> JohnB
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Graeme Burton
> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> Sounds more like a u/s solid state relay - sticking off and on?
> Could
> >> >>>> also be the relay in the pid controller sticking.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Graeme
> >> >>>> Original Message
> >> >>>> From: John Brinkman
> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 22:26
> >> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >> >>>> Reply To: [email protected]
> >> >>>> Subject: Suspected Brew Group Boiler Element
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Guys
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I have a Brewtus III PID with a rotary pump/
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Woke up this morning to my brew group boiler showing 99C, started
> >> >>>> pulling a shot to check and was flash steaming as the water came
> out
> >> >>>> so suspect the reading was correct (set temp is 90c).
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Pulled some water through it for about 60 seconds and the temp
> >> >>>> started
> >> >>>> dropping. I switched my machine off left it for about 30 minutes
> and
> >> >>>> switched it on again. Steam pressure came up and the light for the
> >> >>>> steam boiler went of, brew temp was sitting at 70c and the light on
> >> >>>> the PID was indicating that it was powering the brew element but
> >> >>>> there
> >> >>>> is no rise in temp. I switched the machine off altogether and left
> it
> >> >>>> the whole day, brew temp has dropped down to 30c when I switch it
> on
> >> >>>> and does not rise at all.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Would I be correct in assuming that this is probably a faulty brew
> >> >>>> group element?
> >> >>>> Anything else I should heck before dismantelling?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks JohnB
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