*Fit and finish -- Expobar parts*

*expo: Drip tray and cover poor fit.  *
*expo: The plastic from the laser cutting operation is NOT removed -- just
stays in place INSIDE to smell and fall off.*
*expo: pump is VERY close to the front panel --  rotates and touches
frequently -- causing a racket.*
*expo: Iron chassis and frame -- front covered by thin stainless.*
*expo:  ONLY machine to use the all plastic pressure stat --NOT a ceme, or
mater or jaeger or sirai. WTF?*
*expo:  brutus / SAME size boiler for steam and brew -- brew boiler has two
plugs on the bottom that can and do leak.*

*sorry, but this is all factual  and observed in my 10 years working on
espresso.*

*These are things to look out for.  WHY so defensive?  If you like yours?
Bless your heart! *

*Sheesh!*

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Graeme Burton <[email protected]>
wrote:

> What a lot of garbage. The expobar is not made of proprietary parts
> uniquely designed and manufactured by expobar with the exception of the
> boilers, body work etc. I have worked as a service tech on all those
> machines and there is simply nothing fundamentally wrong with expobar. A
> pstat in an expobar will fail just like a pstat in any machine. The post
> smacks of desperation to become relevant.
>
>
>
>
> Graeme
> *From: *Dave B
> *Sent: *Friday, 1 April 2016 02:55
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Reply To: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: Machine slowly losing brew temp
>
> DO YOU Ben, work on espresso machines,  40 hour week, for over ten years?
>
> Machines like:  Bezzera, Pasquini, La Cimbali, vibiemme, Bravo, Nuova, LM,
> Quick Mill, Rancilio, Saeco, Gaggia, Isomac, the list goes on.  . . .
>
> Thousands of machines, thousands of contented customers.
>
>  Please DO enumerate YOUR experience level, Mr. McCafferty.
>
> And please try to discontinue the tiresome "harassment" and "get a life"
> foolishness.  It is boring and only reflects poorly on you and 'herman'.
>
> Machines that are well cared for with soft water and a monthly cleaning do
> NOT need work every 2 years.
>
> REALITY CHECK:  Having repaired dozens of Expobars, we find them to be
> more trouble-prone than others.
>  (BTW, We have personally measured samples of expo heaters to be 8-10
> ohms, with a calibrated Fluke 87-4)
>
> feel free to call us, 213 800 3286  10-5 M-F for advice, support  or just
> to say hi!
>
> Thanks!  and best regards
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Other than that pesky ohm's law. Resistance should be 13-17 ohms, not
>> 8-10.
>>
>> And testing high limit for continuity is the same as open or closed,
>> Dave.
>>
>> Go back under your bridge Dave--your ongoing harassment of this group is
>> still not welcome, nor your false belief that other machines never need
>> repair.
>>
>> bmc
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:27, Dave B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> A good espresso machine, well cared for,  should NOT NEED "bi-annual"
>> fixes.  Think about it.
>>   a heater either works or it does not.
>> A high limit switch is either CLOSED or OPEN never in between
>> the heater should show 8 to 10 ohms resistance -- never more.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Ben McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why not test anyway?
>>> b
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 08:13, herman dickens <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't worry it will come back. lol Good luck, hopefully it's something
>>> easy.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Eric Christoffersen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Woke this am mind ready to disassemble and test. And the machine is now
>>>> at temp and seems to be working fine.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe... ordering the part... fixed the problem???
>>>>
>>>> Well, at least I'll have the part when it does conk out.
>>>>
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