You'll PROBABLY find that it already has a hose on it, since the connection is actually through the bottom of the machine. If that's the case, the hose will be female, but if there's no hose, then the machine fitting is male. Here's a full-color parts diagram. Page 8 (figure E) shows the water hose hookup. https://fcgresources.blob.core.windows.net/fcgpdfs/ED/08431.pdf
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 11:40:16 AM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: > This would only feed the refrigerator and the B IV so I think it > should/could last. I don’t have the machine on hand yet. Picking it up > tomorrow. Is the hose end for the supply 3/8 male or female? > > On May 2, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Jason Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not that EXACT model, but I have used an inline softener just like that. > They work exactly the same as a whole-home softener (minus the recharging > ability), so from an effectiveness standpoint, they work! Plain and simple. > I would regularly test for hardness using test strips. My only complaint > was the very short lifespan. I could get just under one month of use on one > cartridge. To be fair, though, this one cartridge fed both my espresso > machine AND my drinking water faucet, so it got a fair amount of use. If > you did espresso only, I think you'd find it last much longer. > > On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:25:31 AM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: > >> Is this a system anyone has used? >> >> >> https://clivecoffee.com/products/water-softening-and-filtration-system?variant=7785245245468¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_term=&utm_campaign=US+%7C+S+Shopping+%7C+Best+Sellers+%5BNew%5D&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_tgt=&hsa_grp=&hsa_src=x&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_mt=&hsa_ver=3&hsa_ad=&hsa_acc=5425615321&hsa_kw=&hsa_cam=18136404951&gclid=CjwKCAjwxr2iBhBJEiwAdXECw-tNoq6ojxwqmGu9jtILZSRVx0ij1oftppdLzj3XOcMpWrSQ9GiFoRoC4QsQAvD_BwE#reviews >> >> On May 2, 2023, at 9:20 AM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey Jason! >> I’ll have to check out that Govee plug—a remodel here resulted in a few >> devices on a 20A circuit that shouldn’t be, I wonder if it will help. I >> throw a breaker once in a while when they all cycle on at once by >> coincidence. >> >> Re: filtration not helping a hard water supply—it depends. The BWT does >> in fact claim to reduce or eliminate minerals and scale (and in my >> experience it lives up to that claim—both with TDS testing and with >> empirical results when I swapped a heating element). But just a basic water >> filter wouldn’t. Since BWT is specifically intended for espresso, it also >> has a bypass setting that lets you choose how much mineral is going into >> the machine and shot, so you don’t eliminate all minerals—i.e. distilled >> water would produce a flavorless shot, relatively speaking. Having used the >> BWT setup for maybe 6 years now, I’m totally dumbfounded that it’s not sold >> with every machine ever. >> >> Cheers! >> b >> >> On May 2, 2023, at 07:53, Jason Scott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Being on filtration is good... but still doesn't do anything to a hard >> water supply. Some parts of the country don't suffer from this curse, but >> if you're in hard water country, it's something to be aware of. >> As for the "heavy duty timer", all you need is a smart plug! I bought the >> Govee Smart plug, set up a quick schedule for it on my phone, and now I >> have a custom on/off schedule for every day of the week! It's also worth >> noting that I have the upgraded steam heating element that draws a FULL >> (measured) 2,000w of power, and the Govee has handled it just fine. I >> bought a 4-pack of them just in case this amount of power chewed through >> them, but I'm at least 6 months in on the first plug and it's working >> great. >> Even the control board CAN be repaired (if you're remotely handy). The >> 2kw steam element quickly burned out the steam heater relay on the control >> board, but it was trivial to simply bypass that and route the traces to an >> external heavy duty 20A relay. As others have said, they're GREAT machines >> for tinkerers! >> >> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 9:18:57 AM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: >> >>> It’s on my ever growing shopping list... >>> >>> On May 2, 2023, at 8:01 AM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Same. Does that make us sort of reverse-lurkers or something? I.e. >>> formerly active and now not? >>> >>> Peter—one other thought re: warmup time—a heavy duty timer is your >>> friend! >>> >>> b >>> >>> On May 2, 2023, at 05:25, Herman Dickens <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Ben! It's been a while. Sorry I've been flying under the radar. >>> >>> Herman >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:06 PM 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Herman! >>>> >>>> On May 1, 2023, at 19:23, Herman Dickens <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sounds like a good deal to me. I have one of the original BII's still >>>> running part time. >>>> >>>> Herman >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:25 PM peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Update - It’s been on a filtration system since it was purchased and >>>>> it comes with a back stock of replacement parts. I feel pretty confident >>>>> and at $600, maybe worth the future trouble? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ps one way you can do This is just to go ahead and replace everything >>>>> that can fail. Then you basically get a new machine with your own labor >>>>> to >>>>> blame for any failures, ha ha. That would definitely get you a period of >>>>> reliability, but possibly with unnecessary expense up front. >>>>> >>>>> b >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 16:16, peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ben, >>>>> >>>>> Every few months? That may be more that I can stand… $700 is sounding >>>>> expensive at that rate. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder how much time and money do you think Expobar owners are >>>>> spending on annual maintenance? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 5:02 PM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A bunch of great advice here. >>>>> >>>>> Plumbed/vs water jug. Soooooo nice to have it plumbed. Even nicer to >>>>> have the drain plumbed. Having done both with my current machine, I’d >>>>> never >>>>> go back. >>>>> >>>>> Pitcher’s advice re: bigger heating element is good; you can also >>>>> adjust the pressure stat to set the steam boiler to its max, around 1.45 >>>>> bar if memory serves. This made a world of difference for me vs. stock >>>>> settings. >>>>> >>>>> As to the multiple failed p-stats per year (that is quite exceptional >>>>> Adam!), I don’t recall the brand but we used to discuss switching to a >>>>> non-stock model that was available at Chris’ Coffee and maybe Espresso >>>>> Parts. It was great (Jaeger maybe?). Search my old posts and you’ll find >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> Heat time—half hour is about right, to really get the group head up to >>>>> temp (which is the strength of this machine’s design, as is the case with >>>>> all E61’s). >>>>> >>>>> Price—$700 max sounds reasonable. You could always mention this group >>>>> and the consensus here? By about 10 years of age, I was working on my >>>>> machine every few months, and after about 2 more years of that, went with >>>>> the ECM instead. Holy crap have they gotten expensive though! The ECM >>>>> likes >>>>> to eat vacuum breakers, and also they have a silicon tube that goes from >>>>> the vacuum breaker to the drip tray (a nice touch, keeps the steam >>>>> condensation out of the housing). That tubing rots regularly also. I’ve >>>>> done one element, very easy replacement method. >>>>> >>>>> By the by, I mentioned using teflon tape instead of the liquid >>>>> sealant. Another plus there—you’ll get to know the joy of removing a >>>>> heating element from a Brewtus if it’s glued in with the factory >>>>> sealant—definitely need a friend with an impact hammer and a way to clamp >>>>> the boiler in a vise without bending it. With teflon tape, the >>>>> remove/replace is worlds easier. >>>>> >>>>> Rotary and PID were great (I upgraded to both on my B2)—the vibe pump >>>>> was a regular replacement item also; the rotary never needed work other >>>>> than setting the pressure when I installed it. >>>>> >>>>> Backflush weekly with cafiza—and let it soak in there for an hour >>>>> under pressure if you can! It will keep your shots really nice. >>>>> >>>>> Best of luck, keep us posted! >>>>> b >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 13:56, peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sounds like my old hot tub… Thanks to it, I could probably have a part >>>>> time tub repair job! >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, thanks again. I’ll see if I can get it to a dollar point where >>>>> it feels like a fun hobby, not a money pit. >>>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Adam Meade <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When I got my IV-Rotary, I stuck the hose in a jug of water for a few >>>>> months until I was able to plumb it in. No issues there. When I did >>>>> plumb >>>>> it, my water pressure was too high causing a leak in the machine so I had >>>>> to add a pressure regulator upstream from it. >>>>> >>>>> I'll echo what others have said... you'd best be handy to own this >>>>> machine. In the 6 or so years I have owned it, I've replaced several >>>>> parts >>>>> including a control board, a heating element, a sensor, and for whatever >>>>> reason I am averaging going through about two pressurestat per year (I >>>>> buy >>>>> them in bulk now). If you enjoy learning about these machines and don't >>>>> mind working on them, then go for it, but if you don't, then steer clear. >>>>> >>>>> On the upside, this group is extremely helpful as has been Whole Latte >>>>> Love tech support. >>>>> >>>>> For heat up time, mine is about 8-10 minutes for the steam boiler >>>>> followed by about 10 for the brew boiler. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 4:32 PM Jason Scott <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm, others will have to chime in on whether or not you can just >>>>>> stick a hose into a water vessel. I tend to think that the rotary pump >>>>>> needs a minimum water pressure to function, but I could be wrong there. >>>>>> 35 minutes is more than enough time to heat up. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 3:19:34 PM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Brewtus Crew is awesome, thanks all. Good to hear this as well. >>>>>>> I’m currently using a GCP so this would be a big upgrade. Maybe a huge >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> suck as well.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is 35min accurate for heat up time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts on plumbing vs dropping the tube into a big ol jug of >>>>>>> good H2O. Plumbing would entail splitting my the icemachine line and >>>>>>> figuring out an inline filter and some holes in counters, walls, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 2:09 PM, Jason Scott <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're no longer made, but the parts are all pretty universal >>>>>>> (heating elements, steam/water controls, pstat, etc.) I think I'd be >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> there with you on the price. I would LIKELY pass on a leaking machine >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> $950, but would likely jump on it at $600-$700. The plumbed rotary IV >>>>>>> version is quite a nice machine. My biggest gripe (which is a common >>>>>>> one) >>>>>>> is the lack of steam power, but there are ways to improve that with >>>>>>> different tips/wands. I chose a higher-wattage steam element, and if >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> elements are due for replacement anyway, this is an option (but not a >>>>>>> trivial option, as it does involve replacing wiring that's not intended >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> higher current). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:51:19 PM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for that beta! Good info to take into consideration. The ask >>>>>>>> is $950 but, assuming the worst, I wouldn’t want to pay much more than >>>>>>>> $600-700. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> She also has some back up bits and parts, prepared for the end of >>>>>>>> the line for the brand. I gather these are no longer made and parts >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> harder to find than for an old Quick Mill, for example?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 1:32 PM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey there Peter, >>>>>>>> I think you have some unknowns here, and the bottom line is: what >>>>>>>> discount are you getting, how willing are you to replace/repair parts, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> as Pitcher said how handy are you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I owned a B2 from new for 12 years or so (still have it, no longer >>>>>>>> in service), and now have an ECM (another E61 machine, very similar). >>>>>>>> At 8 >>>>>>>> years, you are definitely into the phase where you will be replacing >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> and I feel that’s to be expected. As to the lack of descaling, that >>>>>>>> may or >>>>>>>> may not be an issue—where I live, I rarely descaled my brewtus and >>>>>>>> didn’t >>>>>>>> have any buildup to mention. Definitely not the case in all areas. As >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> aside, I’ve been using the BWT system (WLL carries it) for maybe 6 >>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>> now and it is money well spent. No more descaling is their claim, it’s >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> true for me (I live in a different area now than I did with the B2 >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> didn’t scale, harder water here). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If it were me, I’d consider the following parts likely to need >>>>>>>> replacing relatively soon: >>>>>>>> —both boiler elements >>>>>>>> —overheat sensors on top of both boilers >>>>>>>> —pressurestat >>>>>>>> —vibe pump if it’s a vibe machine and possibly solenoid/plunger >>>>>>>> —miscellaneous copper and silicon tubing, esp the copper tubing to >>>>>>>> the hot water boiler which is prone to clogging shut >>>>>>>> —seals for the E61 group >>>>>>>> —vacuum breaker for the steam boiler (this can be repaired with a >>>>>>>> simple o-ring, instead of buying the whole part from a vendor—I have a >>>>>>>> bag >>>>>>>> of 100 high temp/food grade and happy to send you one or more). >>>>>>>> —E61 portafilter gasket and screen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Less likely but possible: >>>>>>>> —PID >>>>>>>> —Giemme control box >>>>>>>> —over pressure relief valve on the steam boiler >>>>>>>> —seals for the wands >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So if you add those up, and they are less than the discount you’re >>>>>>>> getting on the machine vs. new (and you like to work on machines), I’d >>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>> go for it! In any case, you will know the machine well, and since >>>>>>>> you’ll be >>>>>>>> doing future maintenance on any machine, it’s good knowledge to have. >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I’d just get the machine and use it, fix the leak, and then >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> pleasantly surprised (and money ahead) for the time that you don’t >>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>> do the things I mentioned above. ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As to Pitcher’s comment about his machine leaking since new, that >>>>>>>> is not normal in my experience. I can’t recall a leak in mine ever, >>>>>>>> unless >>>>>>>> a line blew or something like that. You should be able to chase that >>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>> and fix it, I hope you can too Pitcher! Water under the machine is one >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> those things that drains my energy fast—just annoys the crap out of me >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> guess! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One tip/suggestion—Expobar uses a liquid sealant on threads. It >>>>>>>> works great, but it sets up FAST. You have to be really quick to get >>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>> aligned, etc., especially on the pump assembly. I have always used >>>>>>>> yellow >>>>>>>> teflon tape instead (you could add teflon paste over the tape if you >>>>>>>> wish) >>>>>>>> and have never had a leak that I can recall. Just might save you a >>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>> headache/heartburn. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best and good luck with the decision and/or new machine! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 12:08, peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply. From her description the dripping is coming >>>>>>>> from a spot under one of the boilers. I assume it was build for the >>>>>>>> states. >>>>>>>> My biggest concern I guess is the maintenance over the last 8 yrs... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 12:58 PM, Pitcher Pitcher <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not think the dripping is a sign of something major. Mine is >>>>>>>> 15 years old and it drips since I have owned it. I would have to see >>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>> it is dripping from to give you a better idea. There are some things >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> consider if you are going to purchase. How handy are you? Some things >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> would recommend doing to your machine to make it more hardy. Is the >>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>> for the States or Overseas? The machine was built for 220 v 10 amps. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> States where I live are 120 v 20 amps. The extra amps over time has >>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>> some problems. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:46 AM peter riess <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seller claims she bought it new from WLL. Works well bur >>>>>>>>> apparently it drips a small amount of discolored water as it warms >>>>>>>>> up. >>>>>>>>> Collects on counter under machine. She's never descaled it for the >>>>>>>>> 8+/- yrs >>>>>>>>> she's owned it. I am not sure about her water quality but she has it >>>>>>>>> on a >>>>>>>>> filter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does the dripping raise a hairy red flag?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/42ebc17c-56b2-4ddd-893e-107e0b924ffbn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/42ebc17c-56b2-4ddd-893e-107e0b924ffbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> "Pitcher" >>>>>>>> Stephen Pitcher >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> 225-408-9041 <(225)%20408-9041> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CACn%2BS8Fx2sED_Qdsyb0m%3D4z9aogMewzBDjKf_e9vz3eEGULamQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CACn%2BS8Fx2sED_Qdsyb0m%3D4z9aogMewzBDjKf_e9vz3eEGULamQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/3508BEAD-4CA1-4958-A4B5-BFACB47BFF7C%40gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/3508BEAD-4CA1-4958-A4B5-BFACB47BFF7C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/brewtus/AdQF0ugls1E/unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EBEAEE7C-6F5D-4F15-A2C3-93AE97345AAA%40me.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EBEAEE7C-6F5D-4F15-A2C3-93AE97345AAA%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5fbe977b-dd4e-4909-ad28-64e1f836af7cn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5fbe977b-dd4e-4909-ad28-64e1f836af7cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/a9d81081-951c-44df-821b-3209e5402a01n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/a9d81081-951c-44df-821b-3209e5402a01n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAOJZtCL131o8ZqdaB7kBvc2%3DXftpAotYMjf8f4wZt3CUnd8MEA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAOJZtCL131o8ZqdaB7kBvc2%3DXftpAotYMjf8f4wZt3CUnd8MEA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/85DA36D5-92D6-4053-9AC8-CDACD7B9C699%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/85DA36D5-92D6-4053-9AC8-CDACD7B9C699%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/6A80D0E1-9474-4704-B23A-2C96C491CF4E%40me.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/6A80D0E1-9474-4704-B23A-2C96C491CF4E%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/10B48A78-687A-45CE-AF72-F06CC48126AF%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/10B48A78-687A-45CE-AF72-F06CC48126AF%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5FEB8C03-2295-4C81-BBEA-98799048DF45%40me.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5FEB8C03-2295-4C81-BBEA-98799048DF45%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/46520F49-9B0C-4CEA-A7B0-31BBE288E34C%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/46520F49-9B0C-4CEA-A7B0-31BBE288E34C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAM9mha10cEwEHuV_VG3HMbGj%2B-9TmoBpf03VcFjiGzK8mYMmJA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAM9mha10cEwEHuV_VG3HMbGj%2B-9TmoBpf03VcFjiGzK8mYMmJA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/2CC271EE-4652-4F30-B0F3-80B9B4B7D6E5%40me.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/2CC271EE-4652-4F30-B0F3-80B9B4B7D6E5%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAM9mha0nrq6Krt1_yPM0r%2BJJ2iLU98YGj4-o9V%2BBB%2BSm%2BGzEgw%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CAM9mha0nrq6Krt1_yPM0r%2BJJ2iLU98YGj4-o9V%2BBB%2BSm%2BGzEgw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/brewtus/AdQF0ugls1E/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EDABA934-D805-42CA-AABD-F90733E869AF%40me.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EDABA934-D805-42CA-AABD-F90733E869AF%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/58140de0-525b-4c72-ae2e-f5d0a5af30een%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/58140de0-525b-4c72-ae2e-f5d0a5af30een%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/77969BFC-F85C-46E9-A534-7DAED298107E%40me.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/77969BFC-F85C-46E9-A534-7DAED298107E%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/309ecda1-b186-40de-b605-9e0f2631241cn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/309ecda1-b186-40de-b605-9e0f2631241cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/b183a122-7581-46f2-a953-d96cd137d4aen%40googlegroups.com.
