----- Original Message ----- From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Profit RE: World Attitude (was: Re: Down Under Attitude)
> At 20:34 27-9-01 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > >but that does not mean I do not > > > grieve for the WTC/Pentagon victims. > > > >And yet the noises you make say the opposite. > > They do not. Now, if I would have said something like "you got what you > deserved", you would be right in saying I apparently do not grieve for the > WTC/Pentagon victims. However, I did not make such a remark. > If only you could hear yourself. > > >It suggests that because I > > > criticise the US, I also must feel an intense hatred of the US. > > > >Hatred is a relative word, but I used it in the generic sense. > >You may dislike, despise, detest, abhor, loathe, object to, be annoyed by, > > be offended by, and/or bear ill will toward some thing or another, > >but it is all varying degrees of hate. > > The words "hate" and "hatred" indicate extremely strong feelings, > considerably stronger than, say, a phrase like "be annoyed by". I think you > ought to be a bit more careful with choosing the proper word/phrase in any > given situation. I hate radishes and turnips. I hate it when I stubb my toe. I hate rainy days. I hate country and western music. I hate mean people. I hate it when you do that! I hate America and everything it stands for! The word hate is so generic it defies exact definition, yet all of the preceeding sentences use the word hate in an acceptable and conventional sense. Perhaps there are idiomatic differences in the usage of hate in english and its most common equivilent in dutch. > > When some idiot motorist makes that well-known gesture with his middle > finger, I might feel offended, but I do not *hate* him for it. Yesterday, > going home after work by bike, there was a guy riding his bike about ten > meters ahead of me. He was smoking and the wind was blowing in the wrong > direction, so the smoke blew directly in my face. I found that very > annoying, but I did not feel *hate* towards that man. > Perfectly understandable if one assumes this person wasnt an American. xponent rob
