At 20:34 27-9-01 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:

> >but that does not mean I do not
> > grieve for the WTC/Pentagon victims.
>
>And yet the noises you make say the opposite.

They do not. Now, if I would have said something like "you got what you 
deserved", you would be right in saying I apparently do not grieve for the 
WTC/Pentagon victims. However, I did not make such a remark.


> > > We want our buildings back.
> > > New Yorkers want their skyline back.
> > > Business needs the office space.
> > > Growth demands they be replaced.
> >
> > Not to mention the fact that a piece of land in New York is probably so
> > horribly expensive that it would almost be criminal not to build something
> > on it.
>
>Finally.....a comment that doesnt reek of criticism or sarcasm.  Thank you.

You're welcome.   :-)


> >It suggests that because I
> > criticise the US, I also must feel an intense hatred of the US.
>
>Hatred is a relative word, but I used it in the generic sense.
>You may dislike, despise, detest, abhor, loathe, object to, be annoyed by,
>  be offended by, and/or bear ill will toward some thing or another,
>but it is all varying degrees of hate.

The words "hate" and "hatred" indicate extremely strong feelings, 
considerably stronger than, say, a phrase like "be annoyed by". I think you 
ought to be a bit more careful with choosing the proper word/phrase in any 
given situation.

When some idiot motorist makes that well-known gesture with his middle 
finger, I might feel offended, but I do not *hate* him for it. Yesterday, 
going home after work by bike, there was a guy riding his bike about ten 
meters ahead of me. He was smoking and the wind was blowing in the wrong 
direction, so the smoke blew directly in my face. I found that very 
annoying, but I did not feel *hate* towards that man.


Jeroen

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