Dan Minette wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:51 PM
> Subject: What do you mean Dutch intolerance?
> 
> > Dan Minette schreef:
> >
> > > As for the reason, you live in a country where, for the most part,
> Jewish
> > > people are afraid to live.  There use to be a flourishing Jewish
> community,
> > > which has shrunk to near zero.
> >
> > The Dutch society is one of the most tolerant and open in the world.
> 
> OK, let me ask a couple of questions then. Maybe there are aspects of the
> Dutch culture that I don't understand.
> 
> The Neatherlands is about 8% ethnic Turks by population.
> 
> What fraction of them are citizens?
> 
> What governmental leadership offices have they held?  For example, even
> though there is still racism in the US, most of the largest cities in the US
> have had black mayors.  Although blacks are a minority in Houston (about 35%
> IIRC), the present mayor is black, and just beat a Hispanic to win a third
> term in office.

You can't draw a direct causal relationship between lack of governmental
representation and racism - its a red herring.  

> How do Jewish people get special treatment in the United States.  Yet, if
> you look, the US has more Jewish people than does Israel.

Legally they don't - nor do Cuban refugees, rich white oil men from
Texas, or Hollywood stars.

-j-


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